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Attributes | |
ACN | 203207 |
Time | |
Date | 199202 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : yqh |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 39000 msl bound upper : 39000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 4 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : j515 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 110 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 600 |
ASRS Report | 203207 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Both first officer and I forgot about giving position report to edmonton over yqh. We remembered about 17 min after station passage, switched to the frequency we were to call them on, and gave the report. Controller said he had been trying to reach us for 30 mins. If he wasn't exaggerating, he started trying to call us 13 min before we were even supposed to be on his frequency. Obviously, we should have been alert. However, this is very difficult when faced with hours of almost 0 stimulus, no other air carrier on any frequency, no traffic, no sights to see. Perhaps a single common ATC frequency for all of canada north of 55 degree north could help this situation. There is certainly no frequency congestion up north. Most of the time, we seem to be out of range of communication stations anyway.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LOSS OF RADIO CONTACT.
Narrative: BOTH FO AND I FORGOT ABOUT GIVING POS RPT TO EDMONTON OVER YQH. WE REMEMBERED ABOUT 17 MIN AFTER STATION PASSAGE, SWITCHED TO THE FREQ WE WERE TO CALL THEM ON, AND GAVE THE RPT. CTLR SAID HE HAD BEEN TRYING TO REACH US FOR 30 MINS. IF HE WASN'T EXAGGERATING, HE STARTED TRYING TO CALL US 13 MIN BEFORE WE WERE EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE ON HIS FREQ. OBVIOUSLY, WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALERT. HOWEVER, THIS IS VERY DIFFICULT WHEN FACED WITH HOURS OF ALMOST 0 STIMULUS, NO OTHER ACR ON ANY FREQ, NO TFC, NO SIGHTS TO SEE. PERHAPS A SINGLE COMMON ATC FREQ FOR ALL OF CANADA N OF 55 DEG N COULD HELP THIS SITUATION. THERE IS CERTAINLY NO FREQ CONGESTION UP N. MOST OF THE TIME, WE SEEM TO BE OUT OF RANGE OF COM STATIONS ANYWAY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.