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Attributes | |
ACN | 206168 |
Time | |
Date | 199203 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : fdk |
State Reference | ND |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : iad artcc : zlc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller military : 7 controller radar : 3 |
ASRS Report | 206168 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Air carrier X reported a near miss with a VFR aircraft Y. Air carrier X was being vectored for a downwind for runway 14 at iad. There were approximately 20 VFR aircraft 3000 ft and below within a 5 mi radius of fdk airport. Aircraft Y was observed after the report to have an intermittent mode C of 5100 ft. It was the first nice VFR sunday. The vfrs were out in force. After this occurrence, I called different traffic to another commuter pilot. This traffic was level at 5000 ft VFR. An additional traffic call about 45 seconds later on another aircraft level at 5000 ft VFR. Whatever happened to VFR cardinal altitudes? I believe that these VFR aircraft were trying to get above mountain wave turbulence. Numerous aircraft reported rides smoothing out above 5000 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X HAD NMAC WITH ACFT. Y. SEE AND AVOID CONCEPT.
Narrative: ACR X RPTED A NEAR MISS WITH A VFR ACFT Y. ACR X WAS BEING VECTORED FOR A DOWNWIND FOR RWY 14 AT IAD. THERE WERE APPROX 20 VFR ACFT 3000 FT AND BELOW WITHIN A 5 MI RADIUS OF FDK ARPT. ACFT Y WAS OBSERVED AFTER THE RPT TO HAVE AN INTERMITTENT MODE C OF 5100 FT. IT WAS THE FIRST NICE VFR SUNDAY. THE VFRS WERE OUT IN FORCE. AFTER THIS OCCURRENCE, I CALLED DIFFERENT TFC TO ANOTHER COMMUTER PLT. THIS TFC WAS LEVEL AT 5000 FT VFR. AN ADDITIONAL TFC CALL ABOUT 45 SECONDS LATER ON ANOTHER ACFT LEVEL AT 5000 FT VFR. WHATEVER HAPPENED TO VFR CARDINAL ALTS? I BELIEVE THAT THESE VFR ACFT WERE TRYING TO GET ABOVE MOUNTAIN WAVE TURB. NUMEROUS ACFT RPTED RIDES SMOOTHING OUT ABOVE 5000 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.