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Attributes | |
ACN | 207482 |
Time | |
Date | 199204 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : bdf |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 27000 msl bound upper : 28300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zkc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct enroute airway : zkc |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Fighter |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 2200 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 207482 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 4000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Air carrier X at level cruise at FL270 our TCASII issued an RA to climb, commanding approximately 2000-2500 FPM rate of climb. We started our climb and the TCASII commanded an increased climb rate of approximately 3500-4000 FPM. We continued to climb and at 28300 ft the TCASII was silenced. When the TCASII commands had stopped we saw 2 fgt's in a sharp left bank off the right side of our aircraft. The estimated distance between our aircraft and the fgt's was 1/2 - 1 mi horizontal. After a brief discussion with ATC, we found that ATC had cleared us through a hot MOA. Due to a miscom between ARTCC and the military facility, there was confusion as to the maximum altitude of the MOA. Apparently center thought the top was at FL260 and the military facility thought they were cleared to FL280. The major cause of the conflict was the poor communication between center and the military facility.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FGT UNCOORDINATED UNAUTHORIZED PENETRATION OF AIRSPACE HAD LTSS FROM ACR X. SYS ERR. ACR X TCASII RA CLB EVASIVE ACTION TAKEN FROM MIL FGT.
Narrative: ACR X AT LEVEL CRUISE AT FL270 OUR TCASII ISSUED AN RA TO CLB, COMMANDING APPROX 2000-2500 FPM RATE OF CLB. WE STARTED OUR CLB AND THE TCASII COMMANDED AN INCREASED CLB RATE OF APPROX 3500-4000 FPM. WE CONTINUED TO CLB AND AT 28300 FT THE TCASII WAS SILENCED. WHEN THE TCASII COMMANDS HAD STOPPED WE SAW 2 FGT'S IN A SHARP L BANK OFF THE R SIDE OF OUR ACFT. THE ESTIMATED DISTANCE BTWN OUR ACFT AND THE FGT'S WAS 1/2 - 1 MI HORIZ. AFTER A BRIEF DISCUSSION WITH ATC, WE FOUND THAT ATC HAD CLRED US THROUGH A HOT MOA. DUE TO A MISCOM BTWN ARTCC AND THE MIL FACILITY, THERE WAS CONFUSION AS TO THE MAX ALT OF THE MOA. APPARENTLY CTR THOUGHT THE TOP WAS AT FL260 AND THE MIL FACILITY THOUGHT THEY WERE CLRED TO FL280. THE MAJOR CAUSE OF THE CONFLICT WAS THE POOR COM BTWN CTR AND THE MIL FACILITY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.