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Attributes | |
ACN | 211539 |
Time | |
Date | 199205 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : las |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5800 msl bound upper : 6000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : las |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 4200 |
ASRS Report | 211539 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 3000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
We were being vectored by las approach control for an ILS runway 25. Heading was assigned 340 and descent to 8000. Next instruction was turn to 310 and descend to 6000. While in this descending turn between 6500 and 6000 we got a first TCASII indication which was a red square and an immediate RA of 'reduce descent.' the PF (captain) accomplished this as we made visual contact at 10 O'clock, slightly low with what appeared to be an small aircraft. The PNF (first officer) also had a visual contact and immediately asked approach control about the traffic since we had not received any TA. The controller seemed unaware, at this point, as to the traffic position or it's altitude or vertical direction. The PF then took an evasive action of maintaining constant visual contact with the left wing low until the traffic passed safely below and behind. Returning to the instruments showed 5800 with an immediate return to 6000. While this was happening, the PNF made an additional comment to approach control about the RA and our proximity to the aircraft. By now the controller gained knowledge of the traffic and told us that the target was on another sector's control at 6500 VFR and asked for our altitude. We had resumed 6000 after the evasive maneuver and replied '6000.' he replied that he had just seen 5700 and that was the reason for the RA. We had in fact received the RA at 6000 or above, prior to the evasive action. This entire event caused us to be very high and close for the visual landing which was safely accomplished without incident.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LGT VECTORED FOR APCH HAD TCASII RA. STOPS DSCNT, ACQUIRES AND MAINTAINS VISUAL ON TFC.
Narrative: WE WERE BEING VECTORED BY LAS APCH CTL FOR AN ILS RWY 25. HDG WAS ASSIGNED 340 AND DSCNT TO 8000. NEXT INSTRUCTION WAS TURN TO 310 AND DSND TO 6000. WHILE IN THIS DSNDING TURN BTWN 6500 AND 6000 WE GOT A FIRST TCASII INDICATION WHICH WAS A RED SQUARE AND AN IMMEDIATE RA OF 'REDUCE DSCNT.' THE PF (CAPT) ACCOMPLISHED THIS AS WE MADE VISUAL CONTACT AT 10 O'CLOCK, SLIGHTLY LOW WITH WHAT APPEARED TO BE AN SMA. THE PNF (FO) ALSO HAD A VISUAL CONTACT AND IMMEDIATELY ASKED APCH CTL ABOUT THE TFC SINCE WE HAD NOT RECEIVED ANY TA. THE CTLR SEEMED UNAWARE, AT THIS POINT, AS TO THE TFC POS OR IT'S ALT OR VERT DIRECTION. THE PF THEN TOOK AN EVASIVE ACTION OF MAINTAINING CONSTANT VISUAL CONTACT WITH THE L WING LOW UNTIL THE TFC PASSED SAFELY BELOW AND BEHIND. RETURNING TO THE INSTS SHOWED 5800 WITH AN IMMEDIATE RETURN TO 6000. WHILE THIS WAS HAPPENING, THE PNF MADE AN ADDITIONAL COMMENT TO APCH CTL ABOUT THE RA AND OUR PROX TO THE ACFT. BY NOW THE CTLR GAINED KNOWLEDGE OF THE TFC AND TOLD US THAT THE TARGET WAS ON ANOTHER SECTOR'S CTL AT 6500 VFR AND ASKED FOR OUR ALT. WE HAD RESUMED 6000 AFTER THE EVASIVE MANEUVER AND REPLIED '6000.' HE REPLIED THAT HE HAD JUST SEEN 5700 AND THAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE RA. WE HAD IN FACT RECEIVED THE RA AT 6000 OR ABOVE, PRIOR TO THE EVASIVE ACTION. THIS ENTIRE EVENT CAUSED US TO BE VERY HIGH AND CLOSE FOR THE VISUAL LNDG WHICH WAS SAFELY ACCOMPLISHED WITHOUT INCIDENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.