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Commuter almost at level off advised of traffic 1 O'clock and 5 mi. Looking for traffic, did not level off until 300 ft above assigned.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 212416 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199206 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : rdu |
| State Reference | NC |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4300 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : rdu tower : tpa |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 221 flight time total : 6300 |
| ASRS Report | 212416 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 4100 flight time type : 150 |
| ASRS Report | 212569 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
| Consequence | faa : investigated |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 1700 vertical : 700 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were cleared to 4000 ft, at approximately 3800 ft traffic was called at 1 O'clock 5 mi. While both the copilot and myself looked for traffic we climbed to 4300 ft. At that point we were asked our altitude from center and which I replied 4300 descending to 4000 with traffic in sight. The company requires 1000 and 500 ft call outs which were done. The problem arose from both pilot and copilot were looking outside. In my opinion, we were in radar contact so if I were too close the controller would have stepped in and given a turn to one of the aircraft. So when traffic is called, the PF should stay with his instruments and the PNF should look for the traffic. An additional callout of 100 ft prior to assigned altitude could be instrumented.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMMUTER ALMOST AT LEVEL OFF ADVISED OF TFC 1 O'CLOCK AND 5 MI. LOOKING FOR TFC, DID NOT LEVEL OFF UNTIL 300 FT ABOVE ASSIGNED.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED TO 4000 FT, AT APPROX 3800 FT TFC WAS CALLED AT 1 O'CLOCK 5 MI. WHILE BOTH THE COPLT AND MYSELF LOOKED FOR TFC WE CLBED TO 4300 FT. AT THAT POINT WE WERE ASKED OUR ALT FROM CTR AND WHICH I REPLIED 4300 DSNDING TO 4000 WITH TFC IN SIGHT. THE COMPANY REQUIRES 1000 AND 500 FT CALL OUTS WHICH WERE DONE. THE PROBLEM AROSE FROM BOTH PLT AND COPLT WERE LOOKING OUTSIDE. IN MY OPINION, WE WERE IN RADAR CONTACT SO IF I WERE TOO CLOSE THE CTLR WOULD HAVE STEPPED IN AND GIVEN A TURN TO ONE OF THE ACFT. SO WHEN TFC IS CALLED, THE PF SHOULD STAY WITH HIS INSTS AND THE PNF SHOULD LOOK FOR THE TFC. AN ADDITIONAL CALLOUT OF 100 FT PRIOR TO ASSIGNED ALT COULD BE INSTRUMENTED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.