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Attributes | |
ACN | 216976 |
Time | |
Date | 199208 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : jfk |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : mfr |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport, High Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 6050 flight time type : 900 |
ASRS Report | 216976 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 3280 flight time type : 692 |
ASRS Report | 216977 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : overcame equipment problem none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Airport |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
While loading the aircraft for flight jfk-pwm, the baggage handler informed me that they had 70 bags for pwm. I informed her 65 bags is maximum authorized in any case and that number may need to be reduced if we had a full load of adults. We wound up full but had 4 children so we were able to carry 65 bags, 42 forward cargo and 23 aft cargo. During the takeoff roll after V1, I was not able to rotate. I waited a couple more seconds, built some more airspeed and was able to get airborne. While climbing out the aircraft felt extremely nose heavy. After landing in portland we asked that the bags be counted as they were off loaded. There were 59 bags in forward cargo and 25 bags aft cargo. This resulted in the aircraft taking off well over the maximum takeoff weight, as well as being out of center of gravity. Although I am responsible for all phases of the flight, I must depend on personnel performing their job accurately. It's impossible for a captain to oversee everything. Supplemental information from acn 216977: after takeoff, the captain informed me that the aircraft felt extremely heavy and as though there was a forward center of gravity. Upon arrival in pwm, I asked the baggage handlers there to count the bags. After unloading the aircraft, they informed me that there were 59 bags in the forward compartment and 25 bags in the rear cargo compartment. This resulted in a takeoff weight of 37402 pounds, 577 pounds over the maximum allowed takeoff gross weight. This also resulted in the center of gravity being past the forward limit, resulting in reduced cruising speed and increased fuel consumption.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN MDT COMMUTER CREW WAS GIVEN AN ACFT OVER WT AND WITH A FORWARD CENTER OF GRAVITY OUT OF LIMITS.
Narrative: WHILE LOADING THE ACFT FOR FLT JFK-PWM, THE BAGGAGE HANDLER INFORMED ME THAT THEY HAD 70 BAGS FOR PWM. I INFORMED HER 65 BAGS IS MAX AUTHORIZED IN ANY CASE AND THAT NUMBER MAY NEED TO BE REDUCED IF WE HAD A FULL LOAD OF ADULTS. WE WOUND UP FULL BUT HAD 4 CHILDREN SO WE WERE ABLE TO CARRY 65 BAGS, 42 FORWARD CARGO AND 23 AFT CARGO. DURING THE TKOF ROLL AFTER V1, I WAS NOT ABLE TO ROTATE. I WAITED A COUPLE MORE SECONDS, BUILT SOME MORE AIRSPD AND WAS ABLE TO GET AIRBORNE. WHILE CLBING OUT THE ACFT FELT EXTREMELY NOSE HVY. AFTER LNDG IN PORTLAND WE ASKED THAT THE BAGS BE COUNTED AS THEY WERE OFF LOADED. THERE WERE 59 BAGS IN FORWARD CARGO AND 25 BAGS AFT CARGO. THIS RESULTED IN THE ACFT TAKING OFF WELL OVER THE MAX TKOF WT, AS WELL AS BEING OUT OF CENTER OF GRAVITY. ALTHOUGH I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL PHASES OF THE FLT, I MUST DEPEND ON PERSONNEL PERFORMING THEIR JOB ACCURATELY. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR A CAPT TO OVERSEE EVERYTHING. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 216977: AFTER TKOF, THE CAPT INFORMED ME THAT THE ACFT FELT EXTREMELY HVY AND AS THOUGH THERE WAS A FORWARD CENTER OF GRAVITY. UPON ARR IN PWM, I ASKED THE BAGGAGE HANDLERS THERE TO COUNT THE BAGS. AFTER UNLOADING THE ACFT, THEY INFORMED ME THAT THERE WERE 59 BAGS IN THE FORWARD COMPARTMENT AND 25 BAGS IN THE REAR CARGO COMPARTMENT. THIS RESULTED IN A TKOF WT OF 37402 POUNDS, 577 POUNDS OVER THE MAX ALLOWED TKOF GROSS WT. THIS ALSO RESULTED IN THE CENTER OF GRAVITY BEING PAST THE FORWARD LIMIT, RESULTING IN REDUCED CRUISING SPD AND INCREASED FUEL CONSUMPTION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.