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Attributes | |
ACN | 219088 |
Time | |
Date | 199208 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : tyi airport : rwi |
State Reference | NC |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2100 msl bound upper : 2100 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 4500 |
ASRS Report | 219088 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 290 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 219246 |
Events | |
Anomaly | other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
After first contact with ZDC on 135.5 we were told to contact ZDC on 127.75 (we thought this was odd as we normally get 135.3). On initial contact, we were asked heading -- we advised 295 degrees -- we were told to descend to 2100 ft and expect vectors for the ILS to runway 4 at rwi -- we asked center for another frequency because the reception was very bad -- we were given 118.75 -- a response on this frequency was also broken and we asked for 135.3 -- no response -- we tried to call center on 135.3 on our #2 radio and no response. After we had passed jambe OM, we called center to ask how long we could expect to be on our heading (as there were towers in the area that were higher than our altitude. We had the squelch on in order to hear). We were told to turn right immediately to 090 degrees as there was an antenna at our 12 O'clock 1/2 mi. Also, that she had been trying to contact us for 5 mi. We started an immediate turn and at the same time initiated a climb -- as the strobes on the antenna came into view. We were then told to turn left immediately, as the antenna was 1/4 mi. We advised we were already in the turn and would continue (a turn to the left at that time would have put us on a collision course). We asked again for 135.3 -- no response -- a jet relayed to center and we were given '135.3.' after turning to 909 degrees we descended to 2100 ft. We were given vectors and shot the approach with no further problems. Supplemental information from acn 219246: then, an air carrier jet said center air carrier X said he needs another frequency. She finally gave us the correct frequency. Radio reception was 5 by 5 on this frequency. She then gave us vector. I asked her twice for their phone number, but no response. Then someone called on radio said center wants your phone number. Then she finally told them that 127.75 and 118.75 frequency was not good for that area. They told me we had been put on them by mistake, that they were high altitude frequencys.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X CTLED FLT INTO HIGH RADIO TWRS DUE TO ATC COM PROBLEM ATC ASSIGNED WRONG FREQ.
Narrative: AFTER FIRST CONTACT WITH ZDC ON 135.5 WE WERE TOLD TO CONTACT ZDC ON 127.75 (WE THOUGHT THIS WAS ODD AS WE NORMALLY GET 135.3). ON INITIAL CONTACT, WE WERE ASKED HDG -- WE ADVISED 295 DEGS -- WE WERE TOLD TO DSND TO 2100 FT AND EXPECT VECTORS FOR THE ILS TO RWY 4 AT RWI -- WE ASKED CTR FOR ANOTHER FREQ BECAUSE THE RECEPTION WAS VERY BAD -- WE WERE GIVEN 118.75 -- A RESPONSE ON THIS FREQ WAS ALSO BROKEN AND WE ASKED FOR 135.3 -- NO RESPONSE -- WE TRIED TO CALL CTR ON 135.3 ON OUR #2 RADIO AND NO RESPONSE. AFTER WE HAD PASSED JAMBE OM, WE CALLED CTR TO ASK HOW LONG WE COULD EXPECT TO BE ON OUR HDG (AS THERE WERE TWRS IN THE AREA THAT WERE HIGHER THAN OUR ALT. WE HAD THE SQUELCH ON IN ORDER TO HEAR). WE WERE TOLD TO TURN R IMMEDIATELY TO 090 DEGS AS THERE WAS AN ANTENNA AT OUR 12 O'CLOCK 1/2 MI. ALSO, THAT SHE HAD BEEN TRYING TO CONTACT US FOR 5 MI. WE STARTED AN IMMEDIATE TURN AND AT THE SAME TIME INITIATED A CLB -- AS THE STROBES ON THE ANTENNA CAME INTO VIEW. WE WERE THEN TOLD TO TURN L IMMEDIATELY, AS THE ANTENNA WAS 1/4 MI. WE ADVISED WE WERE ALREADY IN THE TURN AND WOULD CONTINUE (A TURN TO THE L AT THAT TIME WOULD HAVE PUT US ON A COLLISION COURSE). WE ASKED AGAIN FOR 135.3 -- NO RESPONSE -- A JET RELAYED TO CTR AND WE WERE GIVEN '135.3.' AFTER TURNING TO 909 DEGS WE DSNDED TO 2100 FT. WE WERE GIVEN VECTORS AND SHOT THE APCH WITH NO FURTHER PROBLEMS. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 219246: THEN, AN ACR JET SAID CTR ACR X SAID HE NEEDS ANOTHER FREQ. SHE FINALLY GAVE US THE CORRECT FREQ. RADIO RECEPTION WAS 5 BY 5 ON THIS FREQ. SHE THEN GAVE US VECTOR. I ASKED HER TWICE FOR THEIR PHONE NUMBER, BUT NO RESPONSE. THEN SOMEONE CALLED ON RADIO SAID CTR WANTS YOUR PHONE NUMBER. THEN SHE FINALLY TOLD THEM THAT 127.75 AND 118.75 FREQ WAS NOT GOOD FOR THAT AREA. THEY TOLD ME WE HAD BEEN PUT ON THEM BY MISTAKE, THAT THEY WERE HIGH ALT FREQS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.