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Attributes | |
ACN | 219445 |
Time | |
Date | 199208 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : atl |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : atl tower : atl artcc : ztl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain observation : company check pilot oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 219445 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : landing without clearance inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
My company's policy is to have check airman instructor pilots fly with first officer's after they are trained and checked out, on line operations prior to them being released to regular line captain's. I am a check airman and was on the last leg of a 2 day trip with a new first officer. He hadn't been doing too well but was making progress. It was his leg and he was the PF. We had been vectored for a tight approach around numerous rain showers in the area. We were cleared to intercept the final approach course, cleared for the approach and to contact tower. Due to my first officer's inexperience, I was talking him through the approach while completing the appropriate checklists. WX was starting to move onto the field. I focused my attention on the radar for a few seconds, then noticed my first officer had added a lot of power and was starting to exceed flap speeds. I took the aircraft and the power, stabilized it and handed control back over to the first officer for landing. After the landing, I realized we were still on approach control frequency. After I contacted tower, he issued runway crossing instructions and volunteered. 'By the way you were cleared to land'. Unfortunately, events like this may happen, but if it increases our overall diligence, then we are better off. Aviation is a humbling field.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN LTT LANDED WITHOUT TWR CLRNC DURING AN ERRATIC CHK RIDE IN BAD WX.
Narrative: MY COMPANY'S POLICY IS TO HAVE CHK AIRMAN INSTRUCTOR PLTS FLY WITH FO'S AFTER THEY ARE TRAINED AND CHKED OUT, ON LINE OPS PRIOR TO THEM BEING RELEASED TO REGULAR LINE CAPT'S. I AM A CHK AIRMAN AND WAS ON THE LAST LEG OF A 2 DAY TRIP WITH A NEW FO. HE HADN'T BEEN DOING TOO WELL BUT WAS MAKING PROGRESS. IT WAS HIS LEG AND HE WAS THE PF. WE HAD BEEN VECTORED FOR A TIGHT APCH AROUND NUMEROUS RAIN SHOWERS IN THE AREA. WE WERE CLRED TO INTERCEPT THE FINAL APCH COURSE, CLRED FOR THE APCH AND TO CONTACT TWR. DUE TO MY FO'S INEXPERIENCE, I WAS TALKING HIM THROUGH THE APCH WHILE COMPLETING THE APPROPRIATE CHKLISTS. WX WAS STARTING TO MOVE ONTO THE FIELD. I FOCUSED MY ATTN ON THE RADAR FOR A FEW SECONDS, THEN NOTICED MY FO HAD ADDED A LOT OF PWR AND WAS STARTING TO EXCEED FLAP SPDS. I TOOK THE ACFT AND THE PWR, STABILIZED IT AND HANDED CTL BACK OVER TO THE FO FOR LNDG. AFTER THE LNDG, I REALIZED WE WERE STILL ON APCH CTL FREQ. AFTER I CONTACTED TWR, HE ISSUED RWY XING INSTRUCTIONS AND VOLUNTEERED. 'BY THE WAY YOU WERE CLRED TO LAND'. UNFORTUNATELY, EVENTS LIKE THIS MAY HAPPEN, BUT IF IT INCREASES OUR OVERALL DILIGENCE, THEN WE ARE BETTER OFF. AVIATION IS A HUMBLING FIELD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.