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Attributes | |
ACN | 221192 |
Time | |
Date | 199209 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ric |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi landing other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time total : 14000 |
ASRS Report | 221192 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 180 |
ASRS Report | 221191 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 3000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Airport | other physical facility |
Narrative:
After landing on runway 34, the tower cleared us to turn left at the end of the runway. The first officer acknowledged. I was at the controls. We turned off at the end of the runway onto taxiway quebec and cleared the active runway, by doing so we also crossed the end of runway 02. As we proceeded across the end of runway 02 I looked down the runway just to check for possible traffic, and I noticed that at the very beginning of the runway there was either a vehicle or airplane but at that distance I wasn't sure if it was moving or not. After crossing the runway I looked again and noticed it was an airplane rolling out and slowing down after making a landing or taxiing on the runway or whatever. I turned to the first officer and asked if he had acknowledged any hold short instructions from the tower and he said 'no,' and I know I didn't hear any hold short instructions. At that time the tower came on and said, 'we gave you hold short instructions' but we, my first officer and I didn't acknowledge it and didn't read it back to the tower. The tower asked the pilot of the other airplane on the runway if he had any problems with us crossing at the end and he replied 'none whatsoever.' I called the tower supervisor and discussed the situation and he informed me that no further action needed to be taken or discussed. My recommendations concerning this matter is that hold short of runways after landing clearance must be acknowledged and repeated by both pilots and controllers to be sure the clearance is received and understood.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG CROSSED AN ACTIVE RWY WITHOUT CLRNC.
Narrative: AFTER LNDG ON RWY 34, THE TWR CLRED US TO TURN L AT THE END OF THE RWY. THE FO ACKNOWLEDGED. I WAS AT THE CTLS. WE TURNED OFF AT THE END OF THE RWY ONTO TAXIWAY QUEBEC AND CLRED THE ACTIVE RWY, BY DOING SO WE ALSO CROSSED THE END OF RWY 02. AS WE PROCEEDED ACROSS THE END OF RWY 02 I LOOKED DOWN THE RWY JUST TO CHK FOR POSSIBLE TFC, AND I NOTICED THAT AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE RWY THERE WAS EITHER A VEHICLE OR AIRPLANE BUT AT THAT DISTANCE I WASN'T SURE IF IT WAS MOVING OR NOT. AFTER XING THE RWY I LOOKED AGAIN AND NOTICED IT WAS AN AIRPLANE ROLLING OUT AND SLOWING DOWN AFTER MAKING A LNDG OR TAXIING ON THE RWY OR WHATEVER. I TURNED TO THE FO AND ASKED IF HE HAD ACKNOWLEDGED ANY HOLD SHORT INSTRUCTIONS FROM THE TWR AND HE SAID 'NO,' AND I KNOW I DIDN'T HEAR ANY HOLD SHORT INSTRUCTIONS. AT THAT TIME THE TWR CAME ON AND SAID, 'WE GAVE YOU HOLD SHORT INSTRUCTIONS' BUT WE, MY FO AND I DIDN'T ACKNOWLEDGE IT AND DIDN'T READ IT BACK TO THE TWR. THE TWR ASKED THE PLT OF THE OTHER AIRPLANE ON THE RWY IF HE HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH US XING AT THE END AND HE REPLIED 'NONE WHATSOEVER.' I CALLED THE TWR SUPVR AND DISCUSSED THE SITUATION AND HE INFORMED ME THAT NO FURTHER ACTION NEEDED TO BE TAKEN OR DISCUSSED. MY RECOMMENDATIONS CONCERNING THIS MATTER IS THAT HOLD SHORT OF RWYS AFTER LNDG CLRNC MUST BE ACKNOWLEDGED AND REPEATED BY BOTH PLTS AND CTLRS TO BE SURE THE CLRNC IS RECEIVED AND UNDERSTOOD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.