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Attributes | |
ACN | 223409 |
Time | |
Date | 199210 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lmt |
State Reference | OR |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 50 agl bound upper : 100 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Military Transport |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 450 |
ASRS Report | 223409 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : assigned or threatened penalties |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
Attended air show briefing in morning to go over event times and sign waiver with the FAA. I informed the air show coordinator that I was going to do a water drop (aircraft is a fire bomber) and then do 2 low passes with a sharp pull up and turn. The coordinator said that would be great and to do it. I also signed the waiver with the FAA. The coordinator was an FAA control tower person working in conjunction with the FAA. After the air show I was informed that the FAA was going to violate me for my low passes and pull ups because they were going past 45 degrees of bank angle. I called the FAA inspector who wanted to violate me and gave him my story that I had, I thought, been clear to do these maneuvers via the show coordinator who was representing him at the morning briefing. He said that the matter would be dropped because there was a communication breakdown between the coordinator and myself. He also added that there were numerous complaints from the crowd about what I did. I have found out that this was not true and that he was the only person upset. But he has told me that if any complaints come in that he would have to go after me. So how long do I have this thing being held over my head. He also called my company and informed them of the incidents before I could explain what was going on. This action by him has caused great problems with the company owner and myself.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF MLT ACFT EXCEEDED AIRSHOW WAIVER PROVISIONS BY MAKING STEEP BANKED TURNS AFTER LOW PASS PULL UPS.
Narrative: ATTENDED AIR SHOW BRIEFING IN MORNING TO GO OVER EVENT TIMES AND SIGN WAIVER WITH THE FAA. I INFORMED THE AIR SHOW COORDINATOR THAT I WAS GOING TO DO A WATER DROP (ACFT IS A FIRE BOMBER) AND THEN DO 2 LOW PASSES WITH A SHARP PULL UP AND TURN. THE COORDINATOR SAID THAT WOULD BE GREAT AND TO DO IT. I ALSO SIGNED THE WAIVER WITH THE FAA. THE COORDINATOR WAS AN FAA CTL TWR PERSON WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE FAA. AFTER THE AIR SHOW I WAS INFORMED THAT THE FAA WAS GOING TO VIOLATE ME FOR MY LOW PASSES AND PULL UPS BECAUSE THEY WERE GOING PAST 45 DEGS OF BANK ANGLE. I CALLED THE FAA INSPECTOR WHO WANTED TO VIOLATE ME AND GAVE HIM MY STORY THAT I HAD, I THOUGHT, BEEN CLR TO DO THESE MANEUVERS VIA THE SHOW COORDINATOR WHO WAS REPRESENTING HIM AT THE MORNING BRIEFING. HE SAID THAT THE MATTER WOULD BE DROPPED BECAUSE THERE WAS A COM BREAKDOWN BTWN THE COORDINATOR AND MYSELF. HE ALSO ADDED THAT THERE WERE NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS FROM THE CROWD ABOUT WHAT I DID. I HAVE FOUND OUT THAT THIS WAS NOT TRUE AND THAT HE WAS THE ONLY PERSON UPSET. BUT HE HAS TOLD ME THAT IF ANY COMPLAINTS COME IN THAT HE WOULD HAVE TO GO AFTER ME. SO HOW LONG DO I HAVE THIS THING BEING HELD OVER MY HEAD. HE ALSO CALLED MY COMPANY AND INFORMED THEM OF THE INCIDENTS BEFORE I COULD EXPLAIN WHAT WAS GOING ON. THIS ACTION BY HIM HAS CAUSED GREAT PROBLEMS WITH THE COMPANY OWNER AND MYSELF.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.