An air carrier medium large transport made an incursion onto the active runway.

Attributes
ACN	224253
Time
Date	199210
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : lga
State Reference	NY
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	ground other : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	descent : approach landing other
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : private pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 2000
ASRS Report	224253
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 7000
ASRS Report	224054
Events
Anomaly	conflict : ground critical incursion : runway other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

Taxied from lga gate X and held short of runway 22 (active for landing aircraft) on P taxiway. Received clearance to cross runway 22 after holding short for several mins. Repeated clearance to cross runway 22. Since the medium large transport engines are fairly slow to spool from idle thrust, ground control changed their mind and told us to hold our position, and we complied. However, this put our nose over the 'hold line' by about 5 ft. We then told ground control that our nose was hanging out over the edge of the 'hold line' 3 times. They would not acknowledge. A small bizjet landed about 2 mins later. I do not feel safety was compromised because hold line is a lot further displaced than normal at lga and landing aircraft was small. However, ground control should acknowledge our xmissions and act.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: AN ACR MLG MADE AN INCURSION ONTO THE ACTIVE RWY.

Narrative: TAXIED FROM LGA GATE X AND HELD SHORT OF RWY 22 (ACTIVE FOR LNDG ACFT) ON P TAXIWAY. RECEIVED CLRNC TO CROSS RWY 22 AFTER HOLDING SHORT FOR SEVERAL MINS. REPEATED CLRNC TO CROSS RWY 22. SINCE THE MLG ENGS ARE FAIRLY SLOW TO SPOOL FROM IDLE THRUST, GND CTL CHANGED THEIR MIND AND TOLD US TO HOLD OUR POS, AND WE COMPLIED. HOWEVER, THIS PUT OUR NOSE OVER THE 'HOLD LINE' BY ABOUT 5 FT. WE THEN TOLD GND CTL THAT OUR NOSE WAS HANGING OUT OVER THE EDGE OF THE 'HOLD LINE' 3 TIMES. THEY WOULD NOT ACKNOWLEDGE. A SMALL BIZJET LANDED ABOUT 2 MINS LATER. I DO NOT FEEL SAFETY WAS COMPROMISED BECAUSE HOLD LINE IS A LOT FURTHER DISPLACED THAN NORMAL AT LGA AND LNDG ACFT WAS SMALL. HOWEVER, GND CTL SHOULD ACKNOWLEDGE OUR XMISSIONS AND ACT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.