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Attributes | |
ACN | 224861 |
Time | |
Date | 199210 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 2500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax tower : den |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 65 flight time total : 412 flight time type : 65 |
ASRS Report | 224861 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited penetrated airspace |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was cleared for the shoreline route to transition lax. At the time I was almost 1/2 way through the controller cancelled the route clearance and said to use la VFR flight rules and squawk 1200. My interpretation of VFR flight in la basin is to get out of the TCA. I look at the la TCA chart and had to turn west to get 11 NM out of the TCA to get under the TCA in order to go north or go back to long beach for the hollywood park route at 8500 MSL in route to van nuys. There was a broken layer on top so the choice was made to get out of the TCA by dropping 1500 ft over the ocean out 11 NM then north to malibu beach under the TCA. In discussing this with another pilot later, I was told that the controller was telling me that I was to go right to over the coast line transition directly over lax at 4500 and squawk 1201. My misunderstanding was that I didn't think the controller was talking about a flight 'route' but was talking about operating in VFR non radar service areas around the whole la basin. I knew of the other rtes but I think my confusion would be less if the procedure is labeled more like a route rather than a way of flying. It is too easy to be flying VFR flight following and then be cancelled to 'services terminated, squawk 1200.' I'm thinking this is what happened to me and to leave the TCA. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information. Reporter did not furnish any new information regarding this matter, including any contact by the FAA.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PVT PLT OF SMA ACFT INADVERTENTLY PENETRATED A TCA DUE TO A MISUNDERSTANDING OF ATC INSTRUCTIONS.
Narrative: I WAS CLRED FOR THE SHORELINE RTE TO TRANSITION LAX. AT THE TIME I WAS ALMOST 1/2 WAY THROUGH THE CTLR CANCELLED THE RTE CLRNC AND SAID TO USE LA VFR FLT RULES AND SQUAWK 1200. MY INTERPRETATION OF VFR FLT IN LA BASIN IS TO GET OUT OF THE TCA. I LOOK AT THE LA TCA CHART AND HAD TO TURN W TO GET 11 NM OUT OF THE TCA TO GET UNDER THE TCA IN ORDER TO GO N OR GO BACK TO LONG BEACH FOR THE HOLLYWOOD PARK RTE AT 8500 MSL IN RTE TO VAN NUYS. THERE WAS A BROKEN LAYER ON TOP SO THE CHOICE WAS MADE TO GET OUT OF THE TCA BY DROPPING 1500 FT OVER THE OCEAN OUT 11 NM THEN N TO MALIBU BEACH UNDER THE TCA. IN DISCUSSING THIS WITH ANOTHER PLT LATER, I WAS TOLD THAT THE CTLR WAS TELLING ME THAT I WAS TO GO R TO OVER THE COAST LINE TRANSITION DIRECTLY OVER LAX AT 4500 AND SQUAWK 1201. MY MISUNDERSTANDING WAS THAT I DIDN'T THINK THE CTLR WAS TALKING ABOUT A FLT 'RTE' BUT WAS TALKING ABOUT OPERATING IN VFR NON RADAR SVC AREAS AROUND THE WHOLE LA BASIN. I KNEW OF THE OTHER RTES BUT I THINK MY CONFUSION WOULD BE LESS IF THE PROC IS LABELED MORE LIKE A RTE RATHER THAN A WAY OF FLYING. IT IS TOO EASY TO BE FLYING VFR FLT FOLLOWING AND THEN BE CANCELLED TO 'SVCS TERMINATED, SQUAWK 1200.' I'M THINKING THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED TO ME AND TO LEAVE THE TCA. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO. RPTR DID NOT FURNISH ANY NEW INFO REGARDING THIS MATTER, INCLUDING ANY CONTACT BY THE FAA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.