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Attributes | |
ACN | 225004 |
Time | |
Date | 199210 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sjc |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11500 msl bound upper : 12000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : tul |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid enroute airway : zoa |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 17200 flight time type : 2900 |
ASRS Report | 225004 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
The first officer was flying. We were departing san jose on a 'loupe 8' departure. While on a 120 degree heading, we were cleared to turn right, at our discretion, to the san jose VOR to cross it at 12000 ft. Shortly thereafter the first officer started the right turn and continued to climb. I think we crossed the VOR at approximately 11500 ft. At no time did bay departure indicate any concern about our climb or crossing altitude. The remainder of the flight was uneventful. Cause of problem: first officer turned toward VOR too soon. Didn't allow enough time and distance to reach crossing altitude. Contributing cause -- I gave the first officer too much credit for knowing when to start the turn. I should have been monitoring the situation more closely.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR MLG MISSED ITS XING ALT OVER SJC ON THE LOUPE 8 SID.
Narrative: THE FO WAS FLYING. WE WERE DEPARTING SAN JOSE ON A 'LOUPE 8' DEP. WHILE ON A 120 DEG HDG, WE WERE CLRED TO TURN R, AT OUR DISCRETION, TO THE SAN JOSE VOR TO CROSS IT AT 12000 FT. SHORTLY THEREAFTER THE FO STARTED THE R TURN AND CONTINUED TO CLB. I THINK WE CROSSED THE VOR AT APPROX 11500 FT. AT NO TIME DID BAY DEP INDICATE ANY CONCERN ABOUT OUR CLB OR XING ALT. THE REMAINDER OF THE FLT WAS UNEVENTFUL. CAUSE OF PROBLEM: FO TURNED TOWARD VOR TOO SOON. DIDN'T ALLOW ENOUGH TIME AND DISTANCE TO REACH XING ALT. CONTRIBUTING CAUSE -- I GAVE THE FO TOO MUCH CREDIT FOR KNOWING WHEN TO START THE TURN. I SHOULD HAVE BEEN MONITORING THE SITUATION MORE CLOSELY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.