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Attributes | |
ACN | 225831 |
Time | |
Date | 199211 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pit |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 7000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : pit tower : anc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 225831 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Had just been handed off to final approach controller for ILS 32 after having been assigned 11000 ft MSL at 320 KIAS. Final controller was busy. After check-in, he assigned a heading and descent to 9000 ft MSL. Shortly thereafter he cleared us to 7000 ft and cleared us for the ILS 32 approach. Shortly thereafter, he gave us a vector off course (reason not given, possibly a 'widening out' vector because we had been cleared for approach from well above GS). Shortly thereafter, we were given another vector, told to intercept the localizer and maintain 7000 ft. Here is where problem arose. No one (including FAA inspector giving us a check ride) heard the approach clearance. We leveled at 7000 ft on the localizer, still above the GS, at which time I asked if we'd been cleared for the approach. Neither captain nor FAA inspector recalled having been cleared for the approach, and captain couldn't get a word in edgewise because radio traffic was jammed. Finally controller said 'air carrier are you gonna make it?' we answered negative, at which time we were assigned 5000 ft MSL, given a right 360 degree turn, and reclred for the approach.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR GIVEN A 360 DEG TURN ON APCH DUE NOT HEARING RECEIVING APCH CLRNC.
Narrative: HAD JUST BEEN HANDED OFF TO FINAL APCH CTLR FOR ILS 32 AFTER HAVING BEEN ASSIGNED 11000 FT MSL AT 320 KIAS. FINAL CTLR WAS BUSY. AFTER CHK-IN, HE ASSIGNED A HDG AND DSCNT TO 9000 FT MSL. SHORTLY THEREAFTER HE CLRED US TO 7000 FT AND CLRED US FOR THE ILS 32 APCH. SHORTLY THEREAFTER, HE GAVE US A VECTOR OFF COURSE (REASON NOT GIVEN, POSSIBLY A 'WIDENING OUT' VECTOR BECAUSE WE HAD BEEN CLRED FOR APCH FROM WELL ABOVE GS). SHORTLY THEREAFTER, WE WERE GIVEN ANOTHER VECTOR, TOLD TO INTERCEPT THE LOC AND MAINTAIN 7000 FT. HERE IS WHERE PROBLEM AROSE. NO ONE (INCLUDING FAA INSPECTOR GIVING US A CHK RIDE) HEARD THE APCH CLRNC. WE LEVELED AT 7000 FT ON THE LOC, STILL ABOVE THE GS, AT WHICH TIME I ASKED IF WE'D BEEN CLRED FOR THE APCH. NEITHER CAPT NOR FAA INSPECTOR RECALLED HAVING BEEN CLRED FOR THE APCH, AND CAPT COULDN'T GET A WORD IN EDGEWISE BECAUSE RADIO TFC WAS JAMMED. FINALLY CTLR SAID 'ACR ARE YOU GONNA MAKE IT?' WE ANSWERED NEGATIVE, AT WHICH TIME WE WERE ASSIGNED 5000 FT MSL, GIVEN A R 360 DEG TURN, AND RECLRED FOR THE APCH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.