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Attributes | |
ACN | 226627 |
Time | |
Date | 199211 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : tus |
State Reference | AZ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 6500 msl bound upper : 6500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : tus |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 9500 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 226627 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Air carrier X arriving into tus for a visual approach with ILS backup. Approach asked if we had runway in sight -- we replied yes -- we were cleared for the visual and given traffic as an small aircraft who had us in sight. The traffic was below us and in the ground lights -- we reported no contact with the small aircraft. As we were lining up on runway 11L, we saw the position lights of the small aircraft -- because it was dark and he had no other lights on (no rotating beacon or landing light) it took a few seconds to determine if he was a factor -- we had no time to maneuver -- he passed directly below us, his wingspan filled our windscreen completely. We asked approach control who replied he had a 300 ft vertical separation. It looked much closer to us. If the small aircraft had us in sight, he made no attempt to maneuver. Next time I accept a visual for approach with traffic in the area, I'll be sure that I see him.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X ON VISUAL APCH HAD NMAC WITH SMA. SEE AND AVOID CONCEPT.
Narrative: ACR X ARRIVING INTO TUS FOR A VISUAL APCH WITH ILS BACKUP. APCH ASKED IF WE HAD RWY IN SIGHT -- WE REPLIED YES -- WE WERE CLRED FOR THE VISUAL AND GIVEN TFC AS AN SMA WHO HAD US IN SIGHT. THE TFC WAS BELOW US AND IN THE GND LIGHTS -- WE RPTED NO CONTACT WITH THE SMA. AS WE WERE LINING UP ON RWY 11L, WE SAW THE POS LIGHTS OF THE SMA -- BECAUSE IT WAS DARK AND HE HAD NO OTHER LIGHTS ON (NO ROTATING BEACON OR LNDG LIGHT) IT TOOK A FEW SECONDS TO DETERMINE IF HE WAS A FACTOR -- WE HAD NO TIME TO MANEUVER -- HE PASSED DIRECTLY BELOW US, HIS WINGSPAN FILLED OUR WINDSCREEN COMPLETELY. WE ASKED APCH CTL WHO REPLIED HE HAD A 300 FT VERT SEPARATION. IT LOOKED MUCH CLOSER TO US. IF THE SMA HAD US IN SIGHT, HE MADE NO ATTEMPT TO MANEUVER. NEXT TIME I ACCEPT A VISUAL FOR APCH WITH TFC IN THE AREA, I'LL BE SURE THAT I SEE HIM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.