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Attributes | |
ACN | 232456 |
Time | |
Date | 199301 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : clt |
State Reference | NC |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 232456 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 232184 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
On takeoff, first officer reported that he was unsure as to whether he had received the ATC clearance from clearance delivery via voice or ACARS (pre departure clearance). I verified that we did have an IFR clearance and the remainder of the flight was uneventful. Complacency on the part of both crew members was at fault. There is not backup to the pre departure clearance system. If a pilot forgets to get his clearance ATC has no computer or manual system to back him up. You can, and probably will takeoff without a squawk or the rest of your 'canned' flight plan. Under the old manual system, ATC would have picked up our error.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PREDEP CLRNC (PDC) COMPLAINT.
Narrative: ON TKOF, FO RPTED THAT HE WAS UNSURE AS TO WHETHER HE HAD RECEIVED THE ATC CLRNC FROM CLRNC DELIVERY VIA VOICE OR ACARS (PDC). I VERIFIED THAT WE DID HAVE AN IFR CLRNC AND THE REMAINDER OF THE FLT WAS UNEVENTFUL. COMPLACENCY ON THE PART OF BOTH CREW MEMBERS WAS AT FAULT. THERE IS NOT BACKUP TO THE PDC SYS. IF A PLT FORGETS TO GET HIS CLRNC ATC HAS NO COMPUTER OR MANUAL SYS TO BACK HIM UP. YOU CAN, AND PROBABLY WILL TKOF WITHOUT A SQUAWK OR THE REST OF YOUR 'CANNED' FLT PLAN. UNDER THE OLD MANUAL SYS, ATC WOULD HAVE PICKED UP OUR ERROR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.