Medium large transport flight crew unable to make crossing restriction.

Attributes
ACN	233050
Time
Date	199301
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : mco
State Reference	FL
Altitude	msl bound lower : 12000 msl bound upper : 16000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zau
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	descent other
Route In Use	arrival other enroute airway : zjx
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 12000
ASRS Report	233050
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : insufficient time
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

ATC -- ZJX frequency, captain flying a descent into mco. He missed the altitude restriction at lamma intersection by 4000 ft. Descent and aircraft was on autoplt path descent. The center controller gave us cross lamma intersection at 12000 ft at 250 KTS. I believe the controller gave us this clearance too close into lamma intersection to make it in time. I asked for relief and told ATC we would be high and fast, the controller did not respond. No other ATC directives were then heard to other aircraft. I repeated my request and statement, the controller then responded by an angry statement and stating that we should have made the restriction. The captain then requested a turn off the arrival - - again no response. He repeated his request, the controller told us to fly a heading and reduce speed first then make a descent to 12000 ft. I believe the captain flying did not act quickly enough to make the restriction or note his high gndspd. I told him 2 times that he was too high. He seemed distracted by communication and what the flight FMC computer was telling him. Also, the controller gave us the altitude restriction too close to lamma intersection. Also the controller did not respond when I told him we were too high. To prevent a recurrence, captain be more vigilant to aircraft gndspd, programming FMC and act sooner to ATC instructions.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: MLG FLC UNABLE TO MAKE XING RESTRICTION.

Narrative: ATC -- ZJX FREQ, CAPT FLYING A DSCNT INTO MCO. HE MISSED THE ALT RESTRICTION AT LAMMA INTXN BY 4000 FT. DSCNT AND ACFT WAS ON AUTOPLT PATH DSCNT. THE CTR CTLR GAVE US CROSS LAMMA INTXN AT 12000 FT AT 250 KTS. I BELIEVE THE CTLR GAVE US THIS CLRNC TOO CLOSE INTO LAMMA INTXN TO MAKE IT IN TIME. I ASKED FOR RELIEF AND TOLD ATC WE WOULD BE HIGH AND FAST, THE CTLR DID NOT RESPOND. NO OTHER ATC DIRECTIVES WERE THEN HEARD TO OTHER ACFT. I REPEATED MY REQUEST AND STATEMENT, THE CTLR THEN RESPONDED BY AN ANGRY STATEMENT AND STATING THAT WE SHOULD HAVE MADE THE RESTRICTION. THE CAPT THEN REQUESTED A TURN OFF THE ARR - - AGAIN NO RESPONSE. HE REPEATED HIS REQUEST, THE CTLR TOLD US TO FLY A HDG AND REDUCE SPD FIRST THEN MAKE A DSCNT TO 12000 FT. I BELIEVE THE CAPT FLYING DID NOT ACT QUICKLY ENOUGH TO MAKE THE RESTRICTION OR NOTE HIS HIGH GNDSPD. I TOLD HIM 2 TIMES THAT HE WAS TOO HIGH. HE SEEMED DISTRACTED BY COM AND WHAT THE FLT FMC COMPUTER WAS TELLING HIM. ALSO, THE CTLR GAVE US THE ALT RESTRICTION TOO CLOSE TO LAMMA INTXN. ALSO THE CTLR DID NOT RESPOND WHEN I TOLD HIM WE WERE TOO HIGH. TO PREVENT A RECURRENCE, CAPT BE MORE VIGILANT TO ACFT GNDSPD, PROGRAMMING FMC AND ACT SOONER TO ATC INSTRUCTIONS.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.