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Attributes | |
ACN | 235534 |
Time | |
Date | 199303 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ccr |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1200 msl bound upper : 2500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ccr tower : mco |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 3300 flight time type : 100 |
ASRS Report | 235534 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : became reoriented |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 100 vertical : 300 |
Narrative:
During a training flight that was a chkout in an small aircraft X, we were en route from napa airport (apc) to concord (ccr) airport. I had asked the pilot being checked out to climb to 2500 MSL and proceed to ccr airport. After level off, ccr ATIS was received and they were landing runway 32. Visibility was reported as 4 mi in haze. On initial contact to the tower (ccr) the 'student' reported 8 mi north of the airport with ATIS information using the call sign nxxxx. Our full tail number was nxxxxt. The tower asked if nxxxx was our full call sign. The student responded affirmative nxxxx. At that time I told the student to tell the tower (ccr) our full call sign. He did not. We were approaching the airport at 120 KIAS and were getting there rapidly. The student had started heading swesterly after the initial call when tower had assigned right traffic runway 32R, report downwind. When we spotted the airport we were 2 mi northwest of runway 32L/right. I called the tower at that point and informed them we were in a better position for left traffic runway 32L. There was confusion at that point because he thought our call sign was XXXX and when I called him as xxxxt he asked me to confirm who and where we were. I did, and he approved left traffic runway 32L and as we did that, we passed above and to the right of an small aircraft Y. Tower then had us in sight and asked if we had the small aircraft Y in sight and we did the whole time. Tower told us to follow an small aircraft Z and asked the small aircraft Y if he saw us, he did. The tower seemed annoyed at us because of the improper call sign and position in reference to the airport. The reason I am submitting this report is because of the safety factors involved with a high performance aircraft chkout, low pattern visibility, improper call sign, dual instruction. When doing chkouts or any kind of instruction it is very important to divide your attention between the aircraft, airspace, and student and if there is a breakdown in any area it can snowball instantly into an unsafe situation which this was leading to. Any time we fly we must maintain vigilance and not exceed our own personal limitations in any operation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC.
Narrative: DURING A TRAINING FLT THAT WAS A CHKOUT IN AN SMA X, WE WERE ENRTE FROM NAPA ARPT (APC) TO CONCORD (CCR) ARPT. I HAD ASKED THE PLT BEING CHKED OUT TO CLB TO 2500 MSL AND PROCEED TO CCR ARPT. AFTER LEVEL OFF, CCR ATIS WAS RECEIVED AND THEY WERE LNDG RWY 32. VISIBILITY WAS RPTED AS 4 MI IN HAZE. ON INITIAL CONTACT TO THE TWR (CCR) THE 'STUDENT' RPTED 8 MI N OF THE ARPT WITH ATIS INFO USING THE CALL SIGN NXXXX. OUR FULL TAIL NUMBER WAS NXXXXT. THE TWR ASKED IF NXXXX WAS OUR FULL CALL SIGN. THE STUDENT RESPONDED AFFIRMATIVE NXXXX. AT THAT TIME I TOLD THE STUDENT TO TELL THE TWR (CCR) OUR FULL CALL SIGN. HE DID NOT. WE WERE APCHING THE ARPT AT 120 KIAS AND WERE GETTING THERE RAPIDLY. THE STUDENT HAD STARTED HDG SWESTERLY AFTER THE INITIAL CALL WHEN TWR HAD ASSIGNED R TFC RWY 32R, RPT DOWNWIND. WHEN WE SPOTTED THE ARPT WE WERE 2 MI NW OF RWY 32L/R. I CALLED THE TWR AT THAT POINT AND INFORMED THEM WE WERE IN A BETTER POS FOR L TFC RWY 32L. THERE WAS CONFUSION AT THAT POINT BECAUSE HE THOUGHT OUR CALL SIGN WAS XXXX AND WHEN I CALLED HIM AS XXXXT HE ASKED ME TO CONFIRM WHO AND WHERE WE WERE. I DID, AND HE APPROVED L TFC RWY 32L AND AS WE DID THAT, WE PASSED ABOVE AND TO THE R OF AN SMA Y. TWR THEN HAD US IN SIGHT AND ASKED IF WE HAD THE SMA Y IN SIGHT AND WE DID THE WHOLE TIME. TWR TOLD US TO FOLLOW AN SMA Z AND ASKED THE SMA Y IF HE SAW US, HE DID. THE TWR SEEMED ANNOYED AT US BECAUSE OF THE IMPROPER CALL SIGN AND POS IN REF TO THE ARPT. THE REASON I AM SUBMITTING THIS RPT IS BECAUSE OF THE SAFETY FACTORS INVOLVED WITH A HIGH PERFORMANCE ACFT CHKOUT, LOW PATTERN VISIBILITY, IMPROPER CALL SIGN, DUAL INSTRUCTION. WHEN DOING CHKOUTS OR ANY KIND OF INSTRUCTION IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO DIVIDE YOUR ATTN BTWN THE ACFT, AIRSPACE, AND STUDENT AND IF THERE IS A BREAKDOWN IN ANY AREA IT CAN SNOWBALL INSTANTLY INTO AN UNSAFE SIT WHICH THIS WAS LEADING TO. ANY TIME WE FLY WE MUST MAINTAIN VIGILANCE AND NOT EXCEED OUR OWN PERSONAL LIMITATIONS IN ANY OP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.