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Attributes | |
ACN | 236736 |
Time | |
Date | 199303 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : col |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 18000 msl bound upper : 18000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 18500 flight time type : 10000 |
ASRS Report | 236736 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 190 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 1400 |
ASRS Report | 237187 |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Air carrier X as we were climbing through approximately FL176 (note: the altimeter setting was quite high that day, so the altimeter and altitude alerter were already set to 29.92) to an assigned altitude of FL180, the center queried us as to our altitude. The first officer was flying, so I responded that we were 'about to level at FL180.' the ATC controller then said excitedly that 'I show you at FL185,' and admonished us to 'set your altimeters.' as I previously reported, our altimeter settings were already properly set at 29.92, as we were by then out of FL178 to level at FL180. Needless to say, it is quite disconcerting to have the center put the thought in your head that your pitot static system may be malfunctioning. While the center then said, 'I now show you level FL180,' he didn't offer an explanation as to what really happened on his end. Later that day, I had the appropriate department within my company research the occurrence. They have since informed me that ATC has admitted that for 1 sweep, their scope erroneously indicated FL185 and on the next sweep snapped back to FL178. Also, I have now been informed that their equipment does on occasion make this type of error. As an experienced pilot, I can tell you that when this happens it becomes a matter of safety, since you are very distracted as you try to figure out what's happening.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ATC RADAR EQUIP PROB MODE C.
Narrative: ACR X AS WE WERE CLBING THROUGH APPROX FL176 (NOTE: THE ALTIMETER SETTING WAS QUITE HIGH THAT DAY, SO THE ALTIMETER AND ALT ALERTER WERE ALREADY SET TO 29.92) TO AN ASSIGNED ALT OF FL180, THE CTR QUERIED US AS TO OUR ALT. THE FO WAS FLYING, SO I RESPONDED THAT WE WERE 'ABOUT TO LEVEL AT FL180.' THE ATC CTLR THEN SAID EXCITEDLY THAT 'I SHOW YOU AT FL185,' AND ADMONISHED US TO 'SET YOUR ALTIMETERS.' AS I PREVIOUSLY RPTED, OUR ALTIMETER SETTINGS WERE ALREADY PROPERLY SET AT 29.92, AS WE WERE BY THEN OUT OF FL178 TO LEVEL AT FL180. NEEDLESS TO SAY, IT IS QUITE DISCONCERTING TO HAVE THE CTR PUT THE THOUGHT IN YOUR HEAD THAT YOUR PITOT STATIC SYS MAY BE MALFUNCTIONING. WHILE THE CTR THEN SAID, 'I NOW SHOW YOU LEVEL FL180,' HE DIDN'T OFFER AN EXPLANATION AS TO WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON HIS END. LATER THAT DAY, I HAD THE APPROPRIATE DEPT WITHIN MY COMPANY RESEARCH THE OCCURRENCE. THEY HAVE SINCE INFORMED ME THAT ATC HAS ADMITTED THAT FOR 1 SWEEP, THEIR SCOPE ERRONEOUSLY INDICATED FL185 AND ON THE NEXT SWEEP SNAPPED BACK TO FL178. ALSO, I HAVE NOW BEEN INFORMED THAT THEIR EQUIP DOES ON OCCASION MAKE THIS TYPE OF ERROR. AS AN EXPERIENCED PLT, I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHEN THIS HAPPENS IT BECOMES A MATTER OF SAFETY, SINCE YOU ARE VERY DISTRACTED AS YOU TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S HAPPENING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.