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Attributes | |
ACN | 236763 |
Time | |
Date | 199303 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : hdn |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 9000 msl bound upper : 9000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdv tower : atl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 7500 flight time type : 2300 |
ASRS Report | 236763 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
As we approached the hdn airport, the AWOS-3 was calling the WX 8 scattered, 14 broken, 23 broken with visibility 1 1/4 mi. Because we would need 1 1/2 mi to takeoff on runway 10, we elected to hold as published over the hdn VOR and try to talk to our dispatcher. We were unable to reach the dispatcher on the radio. Meanwhile, another aircraft landed at hdn and reported the visibility at 3 mi. ZDV asked if we would like to try the approach. We said yes and he gave us radar vectors to the runway 10 ILS. At 9000 ft and prior to capturing the GS we had the runway in sight. As we descended on the GS we checked the AWOS-3 again for the current wind. At this time, the AWOS-3 was calling the visibility 1/4 mi despite the fact that we had the runway in sight over 9 mi out. It is possible that the AWOS-3 was calling the WX at less than 3/4 mi when we began the approach, but we weren't continuously monitoring it. The local gate agents said that the AWOS-3 often calls the WX much lower than it appears due to a nearby paper mill and they also suspected the lens sometimes fogs over.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF ACR LGT ACFT LANDED BELOW RPTED WX MINIMUMS DUE TO AN INACCURATE AWOS WX RPT.
Narrative: AS WE APCHED THE HDN ARPT, THE AWOS-3 WAS CALLING THE WX 8 SCATTERED, 14 BROKEN, 23 BROKEN WITH VISIBILITY 1 1/4 MI. BECAUSE WE WOULD NEED 1 1/2 MI TO TKOF ON RWY 10, WE ELECTED TO HOLD AS PUBLISHED OVER THE HDN VOR AND TRY TO TALK TO OUR DISPATCHER. WE WERE UNABLE TO REACH THE DISPATCHER ON THE RADIO. MEANWHILE, ANOTHER ACFT LANDED AT HDN AND RPTED THE VISIBILITY AT 3 MI. ZDV ASKED IF WE WOULD LIKE TO TRY THE APCH. WE SAID YES AND HE GAVE US RADAR VECTORS TO THE RWY 10 ILS. AT 9000 FT AND PRIOR TO CAPTURING THE GS WE HAD THE RWY IN SIGHT. AS WE DSNDED ON THE GS WE CHKED THE AWOS-3 AGAIN FOR THE CURRENT WIND. AT THIS TIME, THE AWOS-3 WAS CALLING THE VISIBILITY 1/4 MI DESPITE THE FACT THAT WE HAD THE RWY IN SIGHT OVER 9 MI OUT. IT IS POSSIBLE THAT THE AWOS-3 WAS CALLING THE WX AT LESS THAN 3/4 MI WHEN WE BEGAN THE APCH, BUT WE WEREN'T CONTINUOUSLY MONITORING IT. THE LCL GATE AGENTS SAID THAT THE AWOS-3 OFTEN CALLS THE WX MUCH LOWER THAN IT APPEARS DUE TO A NEARBY PAPER MILL AND THEY ALSO SUSPECTED THE LENS SOMETIMES FOGS OVER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.