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Attributes | |
ACN | 238815 |
Time | |
Date | 199304 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : d97 |
State Reference | MN |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 200 agl bound upper : 200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff cruise other other |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
Flight Phase | descent : approach other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 70 flight time total : 2100 |
ASRS Report | 238815 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 2000 vertical : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
Airport | other physical facility procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Planes using both 34 and 16 today. No wind, airport uses 16. Had a wind from about 300 about 8 mph. 1 plane departed 16. I departed 34 min later. As I was lifting off, plane called base to final 16. I did not see aircraft so made crosswind turn about 200 ft altitude halfway down strip, downwind another 1/4 mi. Departed midfield about where I started first turn to east l-hand pattern. Never saw other aircraft nor did airport operator who jumped my ass about my takeoff. Avoided overflying houses. Industrial area is where I made my turns. No problems. Used my radio on takeoff. Couldn't see other aircraft but tried to avoid where he was to be. Feel airport operator has a bug up his ass is why I'm filing this report. Much student training happening at this airport. My home base 9 yrs. Ultralight homebuilt flying there other day 200 ft pattern. People flying 6 mi finals and not straight-INS. He approached me on apr/tue/93, wind about the same. He couldn't tell me which runway to use then. He is also not a pilot. To prevent recurrence: increase taxes on aircraft, increase AVGAS taxes, mode south xponders, no product liability changes, no manufacturers, no parts suppliers, landing fees, problem will take care of itself. Or control tower, more wings programs better pilot educations. Told the operator if same thing happens when I takeoff today, I'd fly the same pattern. Many of these pilots are too busy working at flying to see and avoid or announce which airport they're going to. Never did see other aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: POTENTIAL CONFLICT AT NON TWR ARPT WITH DEP ARR OPPOSITE DIRECTION TFC.
Narrative: PLANES USING BOTH 34 AND 16 TODAY. NO WIND, ARPT USES 16. HAD A WIND FROM ABOUT 300 ABOUT 8 MPH. 1 PLANE DEPARTED 16. I DEPARTED 34 MIN LATER. AS I WAS LIFTING OFF, PLANE CALLED BASE TO FINAL 16. I DID NOT SEE ACFT SO MADE XWIND TURN ABOUT 200 FT ALT HALFWAY DOWN STRIP, DOWNWIND ANOTHER 1/4 MI. DEPARTED MIDFIELD ABOUT WHERE I STARTED FIRST TURN TO E L-HAND PATTERN. NEVER SAW OTHER ACFT NOR DID ARPT OPERATOR WHO JUMPED MY ASS ABOUT MY TKOF. AVOIDED OVERFLYING HOUSES. INDUSTRIAL AREA IS WHERE I MADE MY TURNS. NO PROBS. USED MY RADIO ON TKOF. COULDN'T SEE OTHER ACFT BUT TRIED TO AVOID WHERE HE WAS TO BE. FEEL ARPT OPERATOR HAS A BUG UP HIS ASS IS WHY I'M FILING THIS RPT. MUCH STUDENT TRAINING HAPPENING AT THIS ARPT. MY HOME BASE 9 YRS. ULTRALIGHT HOMEBUILT FLYING THERE OTHER DAY 200 FT PATTERN. PEOPLE FLYING 6 MI FINALS AND NOT STRAIGHT-INS. HE APCHED ME ON APR/TUE/93, WIND ABOUT THE SAME. HE COULDN'T TELL ME WHICH RWY TO USE THEN. HE IS ALSO NOT A PLT. TO PREVENT RECURRENCE: INCREASE TAXES ON ACFT, INCREASE AVGAS TAXES, MODE S XPONDERS, NO PRODUCT LIABILITY CHANGES, NO MANUFACTURERS, NO PARTS SUPPLIERS, LNDG FEES, PROB WILL TAKE CARE OF ITSELF. OR CTL TWR, MORE WINGS PROGRAMS BETTER PLT EDUCATIONS. TOLD THE OPERATOR IF SAME THING HAPPENS WHEN I TKOF TODAY, I'D FLY THE SAME PATTERN. MANY OF THESE PLTS ARE TOO BUSY WORKING AT FLYING TO SEE AND AVOID OR ANNOUNCE WHICH ARPT THEY'RE GOING TO. NEVER DID SEE OTHER ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.