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Attributes | |
ACN | 238867 |
Time | |
Date | 199304 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : yqg |
State Reference | ON |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 400 agl bound upper : 600 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
Flight Phase | cruise other cruise other |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Flight Phase | cruise other cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 7 flight time total : 435 flight time type : 65 |
ASRS Report | 238867 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 200 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Picked up banner from windsor airport. On climb out, noticed very sluggish performance. Climb was 100 FPM or less and experienced several settling sessions as if a very long banner was being towed. After debating releasing the banner, was able to work altitude up to 600 ft AGL. Headed for stadium area experienced substantial (150-200 ft) loss of altitude over river and initiated a gradual turn to return to windsor airport. 2/3 of way through turn I observed a helicopter pass to my right about 200 ft below me and 200 ft away. This did not alarm me because, in towing banners around stadiums, we fly in close proximity to other aircraft. About 1 min afterwards, I had informed windsor that I was returning and immediately the helicopter contacted the tower and told them that we had nearly collided. The pilot of the helicopter was very rude in his radio manners. He had alleged I had tried to run him over. At the time, a blind, wounded bird would have been able to get away from me due to lack of performance of the aircraft. I have towed many banners longer than the one involved on warmer days, and never had any problem. This banner was returned, released and 2 smaller banners successfully towed. Later in the day, another banner nearly the same length was attempted with the same results, except that I did not venture out of the immediate airport area. Aircraft will be inspected to determine reason(south) for lack of performance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC.
Narrative: PICKED UP BANNER FROM WINDSOR ARPT. ON CLBOUT, NOTICED VERY SLUGGISH PERFORMANCE. CLB WAS 100 FPM OR LESS AND EXPERIENCED SEVERAL SETTLING SESSIONS AS IF A VERY LONG BANNER WAS BEING TOWED. AFTER DEBATING RELEASING THE BANNER, WAS ABLE TO WORK ALT UP TO 600 FT AGL. HEADED FOR STADIUM AREA EXPERIENCED SUBSTANTIAL (150-200 FT) LOSS OF ALT OVER RIVER AND INITIATED A GRADUAL TURN TO RETURN TO WINDSOR ARPT. 2/3 OF WAY THROUGH TURN I OBSERVED A HELI PASS TO MY R ABOUT 200 FT BELOW ME AND 200 FT AWAY. THIS DID NOT ALARM ME BECAUSE, IN TOWING BANNERS AROUND STADIUMS, WE FLY IN CLOSE PROX TO OTHER ACFT. ABOUT 1 MIN AFTERWARDS, I HAD INFORMED WINDSOR THAT I WAS RETURNING AND IMMEDIATELY THE HELI CONTACTED THE TWR AND TOLD THEM THAT WE HAD NEARLY COLLIDED. THE PLT OF THE HELI WAS VERY RUDE IN HIS RADIO MANNERS. HE HAD ALLEGED I HAD TRIED TO RUN HIM OVER. AT THE TIME, A BLIND, WOUNDED BIRD WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET AWAY FROM ME DUE TO LACK OF PERFORMANCE OF THE ACFT. I HAVE TOWED MANY BANNERS LONGER THAN THE ONE INVOLVED ON WARMER DAYS, AND NEVER HAD ANY PROB. THIS BANNER WAS RETURNED, RELEASED AND 2 SMALLER BANNERS SUCCESSFULLY TOWED. LATER IN THE DAY, ANOTHER BANNER NEARLY THE SAME LENGTH WAS ATTEMPTED WITH THE SAME RESULTS, EXCEPT THAT I DID NOT VENTURE OUT OF THE IMMEDIATE ARPT AREA. ACFT WILL BE INSPECTED TO DETERMINE REASON(S) FOR LACK OF PERFORMANCE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.