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ARTCC radar controller's appraisal of holding pattern entry amounts to a heading track deviation. First officer reporter disagrees with assessment.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 238898 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199304 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : crl |
| State Reference | MI |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 21000 msl bound upper : 21000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Dawn |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | other |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 3400 flight time type : 250 |
| ASRS Report | 238898 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | inflight encounter other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Weather |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
We were instructed to hold as published at mizar on detroit's mizar 1 arrival. After turning inbound on the crl 246 degree radial we were being blown north of the radial by strong winds out of the south. By the time I got to mizar, we were heading southeast and I elected to make parallel entry. The controller later questioned this. In retrospect, I should have communicated to both the controller and the captain (who was busy with the radar) the fact that I was being blown well north and wanted to make a parallel entry. At no time was the protected airspace around the holding fix exceeded nor did any conflict arise. Adding to the aircrew workload was a weaker than normal aircraft radar. My personal lesson learned is that a holding briefing, just like an approach briefing should be completed and any potentially questionable items should be discussed with the controller.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ARTCC RADAR CTLR'S APPRAISAL OF HOLDING PATTERN ENTRY AMOUNTS TO A HDG TRACK DEV. FO RPTR DISAGREES WITH ASSESSMENT.
Narrative: WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO HOLD AS PUBLISHED AT MIZAR ON DETROIT'S MIZAR 1 ARR. AFTER TURNING INBOUND ON THE CRL 246 DEG RADIAL WE WERE BEING BLOWN N OF THE RADIAL BY STRONG WINDS OUT OF THE S. BY THE TIME I GOT TO MIZAR, WE WERE HDG SE AND I ELECTED TO MAKE PARALLEL ENTRY. THE CTLR LATER QUESTIONED THIS. IN RETROSPECT, I SHOULD HAVE COMMUNICATED TO BOTH THE CTLR AND THE CAPT (WHO WAS BUSY WITH THE RADAR) THE FACT THAT I WAS BEING BLOWN WELL N AND WANTED TO MAKE A PARALLEL ENTRY. AT NO TIME WAS THE PROTECTED AIRSPACE AROUND THE HOLDING FIX EXCEEDED NOR DID ANY CONFLICT ARISE. ADDING TO THE AIRCREW WORKLOAD WAS A WEAKER THAN NORMAL ACFT RADAR. MY PERSONAL LESSON LEARNED IS THAT A HOLDING BRIEFING, JUST LIKE AN APCH BRIEFING SHOULD BE COMPLETED AND ANY POTENTIALLY QUESTIONABLE ITEMS SHOULD BE DISCUSSED WITH THE CTLR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.