Near midair collision between 2 small aircraft's.

Attributes
ACN	240156
Time
Date	199304
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : roc
State Reference	NY
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zob
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear
Flight Phase	cruise other
Flight Plan	VFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear
Flight Phase	cruise other
Flight Plan	VFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	instruction : instructor oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 30 flight time total : 1600 flight time type : 300
ASRS Report	240156
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee
Qualification	pilot : student
Events
Anomaly	conflict : nmac non adherence : far
Independent Detector	other flight crewa other other : unspecified
Resolutory Action	none taken : insufficient time
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 30 vertical : 20
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

We were executing approach and departure stalls using the prescribed procedure including clearing turns and on recovery from a departure stall, an aircraft was observed immediately above and to our right. We finished recovery and turned left. The aircraft followed us in a 180 degree turn to the left and stayed to our right rear about 100 ft out for about 30 seconds then broke off to the right. The aircraft was dark blue, or gray, or black. All 1 color and looked like an small aircraft Y tail dragger. The n- number was small (3 or 4 inches high) located on the vertical stabilizer. Observations: when sighted the aircraft was flying in the same direction as we were -- no observable closure or divergence. The aircraft was very difficult to see because of the dark solid color. The aircraft most likely had us in sight because he was slightly ahead of us, then followed us in the 180 degree turn to the left.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: NMAC BTWN 2 SMA'S.

Narrative: WE WERE EXECUTING APCH AND DEP STALLS USING THE PRESCRIBED PROC INCLUDING CLRING TURNS AND ON RECOVERY FROM A DEP STALL, AN ACFT WAS OBSERVED IMMEDIATELY ABOVE AND TO OUR R. WE FINISHED RECOVERY AND TURNED L. THE ACFT FOLLOWED US IN A 180 DEG TURN TO THE L AND STAYED TO OUR R REAR ABOUT 100 FT OUT FOR ABOUT 30 SECONDS THEN BROKE OFF TO THE R. THE ACFT WAS DARK BLUE, OR GRAY, OR BLACK. ALL 1 COLOR AND LOOKED LIKE AN SMA Y TAIL DRAGGER. THE N- NUMBER WAS SMALL (3 OR 4 INCHES HIGH) LOCATED ON THE VERT STABILIZER. OBSERVATIONS: WHEN SIGHTED THE ACFT WAS FLYING IN THE SAME DIRECTION AS WE WERE -- NO OBSERVABLE CLOSURE OR DIVERGENCE. THE ACFT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO SEE BECAUSE OF THE DARK SOLID COLOR. THE ACFT MOST LIKELY HAD US IN SIGHT BECAUSE HE WAS SLIGHTLY AHEAD OF US, THEN FOLLOWED US IN THE 180 DEG TURN TO THE L.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.