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Attributes | |
ACN | 240865 |
Time | |
Date | 199305 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : buj |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 9500 msl bound upper : 9500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct enroute airway : zfw |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 1600 |
ASRS Report | 240865 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Captain elected to cross the braid intersection somewhat high (approximately 500 ft) to avoid cumulo nimbus clouds over fix. Captain directed me to advise controller we may be somewhat high at braid. Controller responded in an unprofessional manner saying we had no reason to be high other than starting down late. Controller failed to ask why we deviated, did not realize we were deviating for WX. I attempted to explain to him why we deviated, he did ont respond or apologize. We could easily have made braid on altitude. No other traffic on 40 mi screen on TCASII. We landed on a runway normally used for departures at dfw because of the extremely light traffic. I could see no reason why this controller would be upset.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X NON ADHERENCE TO ATC CLRNC.
Narrative: CAPT ELECTED TO CROSS THE BRAID INTXN SOMEWHAT HIGH (APPROX 500 FT) TO AVOID CUMULO NIMBUS CLOUDS OVER FIX. CAPT DIRECTED ME TO ADVISE CTLR WE MAY BE SOMEWHAT HIGH AT BRAID. CTLR RESPONDED IN AN UNPROFESSIONAL MANNER SAYING WE HAD NO REASON TO BE HIGH OTHER THAN STARTING DOWN LATE. CTLR FAILED TO ASK WHY WE DEVIATED, DID NOT REALIZE WE WERE DEVIATING FOR WX. I ATTEMPTED TO EXPLAIN TO HIM WHY WE DEVIATED, HE DID ONT RESPOND OR APOLOGIZE. WE COULD EASILY HAVE MADE BRAID ON ALT. NO OTHER TFC ON 40 MI SCREEN ON TCASII. WE LANDED ON A RWY NORMALLY USED FOR DEPS AT DFW BECAUSE OF THE EXTREMELY LIGHT TFC. I COULD SEE NO REASON WHY THIS CTLR WOULD BE UPSET.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.