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Attributes | |
ACN | 241154 |
Time | |
Date | 199305 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : eph |
State Reference | WA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : mwh tower : mwh |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Widebody Transport |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller radar : 4 |
ASRS Report | 241154 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : local |
Qualification | controller : non radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 1500 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Intra Facility Coordination Failure other |
Narrative:
I was vectoring an small aircraft for our VOR 14L approach at 4000 ft. Tower had a widebody transport on an extended downwind to runway 14L in VFR traffic. Tower based the widebody transport 4 mi behind my small aircraft. The widebody transport was at 2700 ft on base and as it turned final the widebody transport climbed to 4000 ft. I ended up giving the small aircraft a turn to the east and cancelling their approach clearance. The heavy widebody transport continued inbound at 4000 ft even though tower had requested that they descend for traffic. In my judgement the widebody transport decided to climb to do the VOR 14L approach without advising the tower. Tower didn't scan to notice that the widebody transport was climbing (we have dbrite), I had to alert them. Tower also assumed that the small aircraft was a procedure turn and not on vectors. We have nothing specific in our procedures to advise tower of a procedure turn, but most people coordination this. As far as I'm concerned the widebody transport should have been talking to me. He was 15 mi from the airport talking to tower and I had the IFR traffic in that vicinity. We have procedures in place that allow this sort of thing to happen. However, this is the second time for me that I have had to scramble to get an aircraft out of an approach so it didn't get run over.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WDB HAD CONFLICT WITH SMA ON APCH DUE TO LACK OF ATCT TRACON INTERFAC COORD.
Narrative: I WAS VECTORING AN SMA FOR OUR VOR 14L APCH AT 4000 FT. TWR HAD A WDB ON AN EXTENDED DOWNWIND TO RWY 14L IN VFR TFC. TWR BASED THE WDB 4 MI BEHIND MY SMA. THE WDB WAS AT 2700 FT ON BASE AND AS IT TURNED FINAL THE WDB CLBED TO 4000 FT. I ENDED UP GIVING THE SMA A TURN TO THE E AND CANCELLING THEIR APCH CLRNC. THE HVY WDB CONTINUED INBOUND AT 4000 FT EVEN THOUGH TWR HAD REQUESTED THAT THEY DSND FOR TFC. IN MY JUDGEMENT THE WDB DECIDED TO CLB TO DO THE VOR 14L APCH WITHOUT ADVISING THE TWR. TWR DIDN'T SCAN TO NOTICE THAT THE WDB WAS CLBING (WE HAVE DBRITE), I HAD TO ALERT THEM. TWR ALSO ASSUMED THAT THE SMA WAS A PROC TURN AND NOT ON VECTORS. WE HAVE NOTHING SPECIFIC IN OUR PROCS TO ADVISE TWR OF A PROC TURN, BUT MOST PEOPLE COORD THIS. AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED THE WDB SHOULD HAVE BEEN TALKING TO ME. HE WAS 15 MI FROM THE ARPT TALKING TO TWR AND I HAD THE IFR TFC IN THAT VICINITY. WE HAVE PROCS IN PLACE THAT ALLOW THIS SORT OF THING TO HAPPEN. HOWEVER, THIS IS THE SECOND TIME FOR ME THAT I HAVE HAD TO SCRAMBLE TO GET AN ACFT OUT OF AN APCH SO IT DIDN'T GET RUN OVER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.