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Attributes | |
ACN | 378990 |
Time | |
Date | 199708 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : 54fd |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4500 msl bound upper : 4500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : pam tracon : egi |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skymaster |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 420 flight time type : 90 |
ASRS Report | 378990 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : military |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited penetrated airspace other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
On a VFR flight from perry foley airport in north florida (trip originating from tampa bay executive) I had been told by flight service that military operating areas were open in the eglin/pensacola area to VFR traffic so long as I checked into ATC along my wbound route. I had received similar instructions on my flight over to tampa the previous day, and all had gone well then. This time, however, was very different. Although I announced with each controling agency that I was wbound to mobile, I never received a handoff to another controling agency. Tallahassee dropped me, but I finally received an acknowledgment from tyndall and was given a squawk code and idented on radar. I again stated I was wbound to mobile and that I wanted VFR flight following along the route. I was told tyndall would hand me off to eglin. Instead, tyndall later squawked me 1200, while I was already in eglin airspace and told me to contact eglin myself for further flight following. I immediately knew this would be a problem, since airspace cannot be entered without prior permission. Sure enough, when I contacted eglin, they were not happy, advising me to leave their airspace immediately because the area was active. A controller then came on and asked me details of how tyndall had left, and asked if they had told me to stay north of a certain position. I advised they had not. It is my belief that all transition pilots should simply be advised to stay out of such areas and to adhere to the victor airways. This incident shook me greatly and I do not intend that I will ever be placed in such position again.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN SMT IS HANDED OFF FROM PAM, FLC, TO EGI WITH POOR INTERFAC COORD. SMT DEPARTS AIRSPACE AT REQUEST OF EGI.
Narrative: ON A VFR FLT FROM PERRY FOLEY ARPT IN NORTH FLORIDA (TRIP ORIGINATING FROM TAMPA BAY EXECUTIVE) I HAD BEEN TOLD BY FLT SVC THAT MIL OPERATING AREAS WERE OPEN IN THE EGLIN/PENSACOLA AREA TO VFR TFC SO LONG AS I CHKED INTO ATC ALONG MY WBOUND RTE. I HAD RECEIVED SIMILAR INSTRUCTIONS ON MY FLT OVER TO TAMPA THE PREVIOUS DAY, AND ALL HAD GONE WELL THEN. THIS TIME, HOWEVER, WAS VERY DIFFERENT. ALTHOUGH I ANNOUNCED WITH EACH CTLING AGENCY THAT I WAS WBOUND TO MOBILE, I NEVER RECEIVED A HDOF TO ANOTHER CTLING AGENCY. TALLAHASSEE DROPPED ME, BUT I FINALLY RECEIVED AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT FROM TYNDALL AND WAS GIVEN A SQUAWK CODE AND IDENTED ON RADAR. I AGAIN STATED I WAS WBOUND TO MOBILE AND THAT I WANTED VFR FLT FOLLOWING ALONG THE RTE. I WAS TOLD TYNDALL WOULD HAND ME OFF TO EGLIN. INSTEAD, TYNDALL LATER SQUAWKED ME 1200, WHILE I WAS ALREADY IN EGLIN AIRSPACE AND TOLD ME TO CONTACT EGLIN MYSELF FOR FURTHER FLT FOLLOWING. I IMMEDIATELY KNEW THIS WOULD BE A PROB, SINCE AIRSPACE CANNOT BE ENTERED WITHOUT PRIOR PERMISSION. SURE ENOUGH, WHEN I CONTACTED EGLIN, THEY WERE NOT HAPPY, ADVISING ME TO LEAVE THEIR AIRSPACE IMMEDIATELY BECAUSE THE AREA WAS ACTIVE. A CTLR THEN CAME ON AND ASKED ME DETAILS OF HOW TYNDALL HAD LEFT, AND ASKED IF THEY HAD TOLD ME TO STAY N OF A CERTAIN POS. I ADVISED THEY HAD NOT. IT IS MY BELIEF THAT ALL TRANSITION PLTS SHOULD SIMPLY BE ADVISED TO STAY OUT OF SUCH AREAS AND TO ADHERE TO THE VICTOR AIRWAYS. THIS INCIDENT SHOOK ME GREATLY AND I DO NOT INTEND THAT I WILL EVER BE PLACED IN SUCH POS AGAIN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.