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Attributes | |
ACN | 243762 |
Time | |
Date | 199306 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pit |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 500 agl bound upper : 500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : pit |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport, High Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Recip Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 6200 flight time type : 3800 |
ASRS Report | 243762 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 1500 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We departed runway 28R at pit. In the right turn to 360 degrees out of (500 AGL) 1700 MSL a TCASII RA was received and commanded us to reduce climb. We complied with the RA and then the captain established a visual on the traffic. Conflict traffic was 200 ft above us within 1/4 mi. I spoke to the tower supervisor who claimed the tower controller handling the conflict traffic (small transport) acknowledged a visual on us. That small transport traffic departed 28C and made what appeared to be a right turn toward 28R, the runway we departed. At pit there are 2 tower controllers: one for the 28L and 28C and one for 28R. We weren't advised of any traffic departing 28C or that the traffic had a visual on us. The tower supervisor said the controller forgot to inform us of the aircraft departing 28C. I find it hard to accept the fact that the small transport had a visual on us. What airman will fly within 200 ft of another aircraft on departure and claim that he has a safe visual on us. In retrospect, the TCASII system worked as advertised and prevented a major accident. If the small transport had a visual on us, I suggest the pilot exercise better judgement in safe separations.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MDT HAS TCASII RA ON TKOF, REDUCES CLB.
Narrative: WE DEPARTED RWY 28R AT PIT. IN THE R TURN TO 360 DEGS OUT OF (500 AGL) 1700 MSL A TCASII RA WAS RECEIVED AND COMMANDED US TO REDUCE CLB. WE COMPLIED WITH THE RA AND THEN THE CAPT ESTABLISHED A VISUAL ON THE TFC. CONFLICT TFC WAS 200 FT ABOVE US WITHIN 1/4 MI. I SPOKE TO THE TWR SUPVR WHO CLAIMED THE TWR CTLR HANDLING THE CONFLICT TFC (SMT) ACKNOWLEDGED A VISUAL ON US. THAT SMT TFC DEPARTED 28C AND MADE WHAT APPEARED TO BE A R TURN TOWARD 28R, THE RWY WE DEPARTED. AT PIT THERE ARE 2 TWR CTLRS: ONE FOR THE 28L AND 28C AND ONE FOR 28R. WE WEREN'T ADVISED OF ANY TFC DEPARTING 28C OR THAT THE TFC HAD A VISUAL ON US. THE TWR SUPVR SAID THE CTLR FORGOT TO INFORM US OF THE ACFT DEPARTING 28C. I FIND IT HARD TO ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THE SMT HAD A VISUAL ON US. WHAT AIRMAN WILL FLY WITHIN 200 FT OF ANOTHER ACFT ON DEP AND CLAIM THAT HE HAS A SAFE VISUAL ON US. IN RETROSPECT, THE TCASII SYS WORKED AS ADVERTISED AND PREVENTED A MAJOR ACCIDENT. IF THE SMT HAD A VISUAL ON US, I SUGGEST THE PLT EXERCISE BETTER JUDGEMENT IN SAFE SEPARATIONS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.