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Attributes | |
ACN | 244931 |
Time | |
Date | 199306 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : myf |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2600 msl bound upper : 2600 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : pvd |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 3300 |
ASRS Report | 244931 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : cfi |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 500 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
A military aircraft departed miramar NAS and a passenger in the rear of our aircraft said he passed very close by. I was receiving instruction in the aircraft and was new to the area and never saw the aircraft. If this occurred, it seems that there is potential conflict between these 2 facilities. We had transponder. Tower at montgomery asked if we had heard the TA. Instructor had radio low while talking. I did not hear the advisory. I don't recall being overly occupied but apparently missed this aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN SMA HAD LTSS WITH A MIL ACFT.
Narrative: A MIL ACFT DEPARTED MIRAMAR NAS AND A PAX IN THE REAR OF OUR ACFT SAID HE PASSED VERY CLOSE BY. I WAS RECEIVING INSTRUCTION IN THE ACFT AND WAS NEW TO THE AREA AND NEVER SAW THE ACFT. IF THIS OCCURRED, IT SEEMS THAT THERE IS POTENTIAL CONFLICT BTWN THESE 2 FACILITIES. WE HAD XPONDER. TWR AT MONTGOMERY ASKED IF WE HAD HEARD THE TA. INSTRUCTOR HAD RADIO LOW WHILE TALKING. I DID NOT HEAR THE ADVISORY. I DON'T RECALL BEING OVERLY OCCUPIED BUT APPARENTLY MISSED THIS ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.