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Attributes | |
ACN | 244968 |
Time | |
Date | 199306 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : lga |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 800 msl bound upper : 800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 18 |
ASRS Report | 244968 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 30 |
ASRS Report | 245167 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Kennedy TCA controller contacted while helicopter was in the east river exclusion. Routing and entry point request was made, transponder code set at controller's request. I feel that the controller's then prolonged silence was a purposeful attempt to encourage our possible unauthorized intrusion into TCA airspace before informing us that la guardia controller actually had responsibility for the airspace being requested. Subsequent dealings with kennedy revealed an extremely busy, almost harried, atmosphere.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CPR HELI MAY HAVE ENTERED THE TCA WITHOUT CLRNC.
Narrative: KENNEDY TCA CTLR CONTACTED WHILE HELI WAS IN THE EAST RIVER EXCLUSION. ROUTING AND ENTRY POINT REQUEST WAS MADE, XPONDER CODE SET AT CTLR'S REQUEST. I FEEL THAT THE CTLR'S THEN PROLONGED SILENCE WAS A PURPOSEFUL ATTEMPT TO ENCOURAGE OUR POSSIBLE UNAUTH INTRUSION INTO TCA AIRSPACE BEFORE INFORMING US THAT LA GUARDIA CTLR ACTUALLY HAD RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE AIRSPACE BEING REQUESTED. SUBSEQUENT DEALINGS WITH KENNEDY REVEALED AN EXTREMELY BUSY, ALMOST HARRIED, ATMOSPHERE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.