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Attributes | |
ACN | 245378 |
Time | |
Date | 199306 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : dfw |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2300 msl bound upper : 2300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dfw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller military : 8 controller radar : 18 |
ASRS Report | 245378 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 15000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
I had air carrier X turned towards the final. I had matched the speeds with air carrier Y and had 4 mi of separation. I turned the air carrier X to a dogleg intercept and descended to 3300 from 4000 ft. The pilot read back 23, but it did not really matter. I did not correct it. The intercept and distance to follow air carrier Y looked good. I cleared air carrier X for the ILS at 33. Air carrier Y slowed considerably and air carrier X now had a 50 KT overtake. My 4 mi rapidly turned to 3. I slowed air carrier X from 170 to 150. Now it's less than 3 mi and no apparent speed change. I broke air carrier X right to 180 and climb to 3000. At that moment, the conflict alert went off. Air carrier X said he had air carrier Y in sight. I asked could he follow him for a visual. Air carrier Y pilot replied if he could s-turn. I cleared him for a visual to follow the air carrier Y. Lesson: use earlier speed control because the air carrier X aircraft types are relatively new here. It seems sometimes in the terminal pattern they do not slow very quickly in comparison to most other air carrier airplanes.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X OVERTAKES ACR Y ON APCH, HAD LTSS. SYS ERROR.
Narrative: I HAD ACR X TURNED TOWARDS THE FINAL. I HAD MATCHED THE SPDS WITH ACR Y AND HAD 4 MI OF SEPARATION. I TURNED THE ACR X TO A DOGLEG INTERCEPT AND DSNDED TO 3300 FROM 4000 FT. THE PLT READ BACK 23, BUT IT DID NOT REALLY MATTER. I DID NOT CORRECT IT. THE INTERCEPT AND DISTANCE TO FOLLOW ACR Y LOOKED GOOD. I CLRED ACR X FOR THE ILS AT 33. ACR Y SLOWED CONSIDERABLY AND ACR X NOW HAD A 50 KT OVERTAKE. MY 4 MI RAPIDLY TURNED TO 3. I SLOWED ACR X FROM 170 TO 150. NOW IT'S LESS THAN 3 MI AND NO APPARENT SPD CHANGE. I BROKE ACR X R TO 180 AND CLB TO 3000. AT THAT MOMENT, THE CONFLICT ALERT WENT OFF. ACR X SAID HE HAD ACR Y IN SIGHT. I ASKED COULD HE FOLLOW HIM FOR A VISUAL. ACR Y PLT REPLIED IF HE COULD S-TURN. I CLRED HIM FOR A VISUAL TO FOLLOW THE ACR Y. LESSON: USE EARLIER SPD CTL BECAUSE THE ACR X ACFT TYPES ARE RELATIVELY NEW HERE. IT SEEMS SOMETIMES IN THE TERMINAL PATTERN THEY DO NOT SLOW VERY QUICKLY IN COMPARISON TO MOST OTHER ACR AIRPLANES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.