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Attributes | |
ACN | 247863 |
Time | |
Date | 199308 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 35000 msl bound upper : 35000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 7500 |
ASRS Report | 247863 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 290 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 248534 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : overcame equipment problem |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
First noticed something wrong when I noted the distance to lax and knew it was past time to start our descent. Upon checking the radios, we appeared to still be on an ZAB frequency. I attempted to call it sounded faintly like joshua was trying to answer. We found a familiar ZLA frequency and checked in. Center said they had been trying to reach us 'for the last 200 mi.' somehow, the radio handoff from ZAB to ZLA was missed. I'm sure radio chatter, inferior quality radios with older aircraft, the requirement to monitor company frequency, and ATC radio procedures breakdown all contributed to this event.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FREQ CHANGE MISSED LATE.
Narrative: FIRST NOTICED SOMETHING WRONG WHEN I NOTED THE DISTANCE TO LAX AND KNEW IT WAS PAST TIME TO START OUR DSCNT. UPON CHKING THE RADIOS, WE APPEARED TO STILL BE ON AN ZAB FREQ. I ATTEMPTED TO CALL IT SOUNDED FAINTLY LIKE JOSHUA WAS TRYING TO ANSWER. WE FOUND A FAMILIAR ZLA FREQ AND CHKED IN. CTR SAID THEY HAD BEEN TRYING TO REACH US 'FOR THE LAST 200 MI.' SOMEHOW, THE RADIO HDOF FROM ZAB TO ZLA WAS MISSED. I'M SURE RADIO CHATTER, INFERIOR QUALITY RADIOS WITH OLDER ACFT, THE REQUIREMENT TO MONITOR COMPANY FREQ, AND ATC RADIO PROCS BREAKDOWN ALL CONTRIBUTED TO THIS EVENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.