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Attributes | |
ACN | 248271 |
Time | |
Date | 199308 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pit |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : pit |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 130 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 900 |
ASRS Report | 248271 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Level at 5000 ft, talking to departure. They asked us to change our transponder code. Thought nothing about that request. Later, the first officer decided to pull up to ACARS message to check to see if he set it wrong. Then he realized he had put the wrong trip number in the ACARS which was caught during pushback. He then thought we may have used someone else's clearance. But looking back in the message file in the ACARS he couldn't find any pre departure clearance message. I concluded from all that information is that we took off without an ATC clearance. How ground control let us taxi is beyond me.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR MLG CREW TOOK OFF WITHOUT AIRWAYS CLRNC. PDC PROCS WERE IN USE.
Narrative: LEVEL AT 5000 FT, TALKING TO DEP. THEY ASKED US TO CHANGE OUR XPONDER CODE. THOUGHT NOTHING ABOUT THAT REQUEST. LATER, THE FO DECIDED TO PULL UP TO ACARS MESSAGE TO CHK TO SEE IF HE SET IT WRONG. THEN HE REALIZED HE HAD PUT THE WRONG TRIP NUMBER IN THE ACARS WHICH WAS CAUGHT DURING PUSHBACK. HE THEN THOUGHT WE MAY HAVE USED SOMEONE ELSE'S CLRNC. BUT LOOKING BACK IN THE MESSAGE FILE IN THE ACARS HE COULDN'T FIND ANY PDC MESSAGE. I CONCLUDED FROM ALL THAT INFO IS THAT WE TOOK OFF WITHOUT AN ATC CLRNC. HOW GND CTL LET US TAXI IS BEYOND ME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.