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Attributes | |
ACN | 248384 |
Time | |
Date | 199308 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : stl |
State Reference | MO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10500 msl bound upper : 11500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 4 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct enroute airway : zkc |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller military : 5 controller radar : 7 |
ASRS Report | 248384 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : developmental |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 1500 vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Air carrier X descending into stl to 11000 ft. VFR traffic angling across the approach course. Traffic was issued to air carrier X when targets were 15 mi apart. Air carrier X was through 12400 ft descending to 11000 ft. Air carrier X asked for a vector and was given permission to deviate north, a right turn. After a short discussion with the developmental we issued a turn to a heading of 230 degrees, a left turn to air carrier X. TCASII RA descended him to 10500 ft. Pilot later reported on the phone the aircraft were 300 ft and 1/4 of a mi apart. Once my trainee allowed the pilot to deviate north he began a 30 degree right turn. I should have issued either an additional turn to the north or suggested a 230 degree heading to the pilot giving him the option of turning to the south based on what he saw displayed on his TCASII scope. The VFR target was indicating 11500 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X TCASII RA WITH VFR SMA. EVASIVE ACTION TAKEN.
Narrative: ACR X DSNDING INTO STL TO 11000 FT. VFR TFC ANGLING ACROSS THE APCH COURSE. TFC WAS ISSUED TO ACR X WHEN TARGETS WERE 15 MI APART. ACR X WAS THROUGH 12400 FT DSNDING TO 11000 FT. ACR X ASKED FOR A VECTOR AND WAS GIVEN PERMISSION TO DEVIATE N, A R TURN. AFTER A SHORT DISCUSSION WITH THE DEVELOPMENTAL WE ISSUED A TURN TO A HDG OF 230 DEGS, A L TURN TO ACR X. TCASII RA DSNDED HIM TO 10500 FT. PLT LATER RPTED ON THE PHONE THE ACFT WERE 300 FT AND 1/4 OF A MI APART. ONCE MY TRAINEE ALLOWED THE PLT TO DEVIATE N HE BEGAN A 30 DEG R TURN. I SHOULD HAVE ISSUED EITHER AN ADDITIONAL TURN TO THE N OR SUGGESTED A 230 DEG HDG TO THE PLT GIVING HIM THE OPTION OF TURNING TO THE S BASED ON WHAT HE SAW DISPLAYED ON HIS TCASII SCOPE. THE VFR TARGET WAS INDICATING 11500 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.