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Attributes | |
ACN | 248960 |
Time | |
Date | 199308 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : flg |
State Reference | AZ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7800 msl bound upper : 7800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : flg |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff climbout : initial |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft |
Flight Phase | other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 248960 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 300 vertical : 50 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Airplane ahead on right closed traffic, turned downwind. I took off with tower clearance. I had announced a west departure on calling for taxi clearance. Did not reiterate to tower. (Ground and tower position same individual working 2 frequencys.) tower did not say touch-and-go traffic ahead was to make right pattern. Other aircraft on training flight. Instructor stated a '50 ft' miss. Not that close, but close enough to be startling. I saw other aircraft in time to determine we were not on collision course, and I took no evasive action. Typical procedures by tower would have helped: 1) clear or deny my right turnout, 2) state that traffic in closed pattern to right, 3) better clearing on part of me and other pilot.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA HAS NMAC WITH TRAINING ACFT IN PATTERN.
Narrative: AIRPLANE AHEAD ON R CLOSED TFC, TURNED DOWNWIND. I TOOK OFF WITH TWR CLRNC. I HAD ANNOUNCED A W DEP ON CALLING FOR TAXI CLRNC. DID NOT REITERATE TO TWR. (GND AND TWR POS SAME INDIVIDUAL WORKING 2 FREQS.) TWR DID NOT SAY TOUCH-AND-GO TFC AHEAD WAS TO MAKE R PATTERN. OTHER ACFT ON TRAINING FLT. INSTRUCTOR STATED A '50 FT' MISS. NOT THAT CLOSE, BUT CLOSE ENOUGH TO BE STARTLING. I SAW OTHER ACFT IN TIME TO DETERMINE WE WERE NOT ON COLLISION COURSE, AND I TOOK NO EVASIVE ACTION. TYPICAL PROCS BY TWR WOULD HAVE HELPED: 1) CLR OR DENY MY R TURNOUT, 2) STATE THAT TFC IN CLOSED PATTERN TO R, 3) BETTER CLRING ON PART OF ME AND OTHER PLT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.