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Attributes | |
ACN | 249172 |
Time | |
Date | 199308 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : den |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 1000 agl bound upper : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : den tower : frg |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
Route In Use | approach : straight in enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : straight in enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 6800 flight time type : 2400 |
ASRS Report | 249172 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
On approach into den, we were approaching the airport from the southeast. We had been handed over to the final approach controller. This controller pointed out 2 aircraft, an air carrier medium large transport and a commuter mdt. The mdt was landing on runway 26R, the medium large transport on runway 26L. We acknowledged we had both aircraft in sight, but that we needed to s-turn in order to gain some separation on the medium large transport. The controller advised us that was approved, but to s-turn to the south of final for runway 26L, cleared visual approach runway 26L behind the medium large transport, contact tower. The approach was in good WX, but there was heavy traffic into den. The approach was going well, we had s-turned and gained the spacing we needed. We had stabilized back on the ILS for runway 26L and continued. At this point we were cleared to land by tower on runway 26L. Everything looked fine, until the TCASII alerted us to an aircraft closing on us from behind and underneath us saying 'climb, climb.' at this moment, I asked tower, 'did he have any traffic under us?' he said 'negative.' the captain was flying, so I looked out my right window to see if I could verify the TCASII alert. Sure enough, I saw what appeared to be the shadow of an small transport converging on us. I could not see the aircraft, just their shadow. The captain was in the process of executing a go around when I told him what I saw. Shortly after that, the TCASII commanded a more urgent climb response. In the process of the go around, we were unable to determine if another aircraft had landed on runway 26L or runway 26R. On the ground the captain called the tower by phone to see what happened. The tower quickly transferred him to the approach supervisor. He did not have any answers for us. All turned out well, but what bothered me was how close the aircraft were being vectored in. Then to get a TCASII command to climb when the tower says there is nobody there, but I see a shadow, just unsettles me a bit.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR MLG MADE A GAR WHEN TCASII AND AN ACFT SHADOW COMMANDED IT.
Narrative: ON APCH INTO DEN, WE WERE APCHING THE ARPT FROM THE SE. WE HAD BEEN HANDED OVER TO THE FINAL APCH CTLR. THIS CTLR POINTED OUT 2 ACFT, AN ACR MLG AND A COMMUTER MDT. THE MDT WAS LNDG ON RWY 26R, THE MLG ON RWY 26L. WE ACKNOWLEDGED WE HAD BOTH ACFT IN SIGHT, BUT THAT WE NEEDED TO S-TURN IN ORDER TO GAIN SOME SEPARATION ON THE MLG. THE CTLR ADVISED US THAT WAS APPROVED, BUT TO S-TURN TO THE S OF FINAL FOR RWY 26L, CLRED VISUAL APCH RWY 26L BEHIND THE MLG, CONTACT TWR. THE APCH WAS IN GOOD WX, BUT THERE WAS HVY TFC INTO DEN. THE APCH WAS GOING WELL, WE HAD S-TURNED AND GAINED THE SPACING WE NEEDED. WE HAD STABILIZED BACK ON THE ILS FOR RWY 26L AND CONTINUED. AT THIS POINT WE WERE CLRED TO LAND BY TWR ON RWY 26L. EVERYTHING LOOKED FINE, UNTIL THE TCASII ALERTED US TO AN ACFT CLOSING ON US FROM BEHIND AND UNDERNEATH US SAYING 'CLB, CLB.' AT THIS MOMENT, I ASKED TWR, 'DID HE HAVE ANY TFC UNDER US?' HE SAID 'NEGATIVE.' THE CAPT WAS FLYING, SO I LOOKED OUT MY R WINDOW TO SEE IF I COULD VERIFY THE TCASII ALERT. SURE ENOUGH, I SAW WHAT APPEARED TO BE THE SHADOW OF AN SMT CONVERGING ON US. I COULD NOT SEE THE ACFT, JUST THEIR SHADOW. THE CAPT WAS IN THE PROCESS OF EXECUTING A GAR WHEN I TOLD HIM WHAT I SAW. SHORTLY AFTER THAT, THE TCASII COMMANDED A MORE URGENT CLB RESPONSE. IN THE PROCESS OF THE GAR, WE WERE UNABLE TO DETERMINE IF ANOTHER ACFT HAD LANDED ON RWY 26L OR RWY 26R. ON THE GND THE CAPT CALLED THE TWR BY PHONE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED. THE TWR QUICKLY TRANSFERRED HIM TO THE APCH SUPVR. HE DID NOT HAVE ANY ANSWERS FOR US. ALL TURNED OUT WELL, BUT WHAT BOTHERED ME WAS HOW CLOSE THE ACFT WERE BEING VECTORED IN. THEN TO GET A TCASII COMMAND TO CLB WHEN THE TWR SAYS THERE IS NOBODY THERE, BUT I SEE A SHADOW, JUST UNSETTLES ME A BIT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.