Altitude crossing restriction not met by large transport.

Attributes
ACN	251500
Time
Date	199309
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : lax
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 9500 msl bound upper : 10000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : lax
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Route In Use	departure other departure sid : sid
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 700
ASRS Report	251500
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : undershoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance none taken : insufficient time other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Loop 9 departure. Heavy airplane with -X engines (we fly -X and -xy engined airplanes). Runway 25R departure -- heading 235 degrees after departure, controller gave us left turn back to lax VOR (at about 8 mi out). We took the clearance (we were climbing through about 5000 ft) thinking we could make the restriction of 10000 or above by lax VOR. We couldn't. Not only did we miss the lax VOR restriction (we crossed it at 9500 ft). We bled off enough airspeed to assure that we would miss the keggs restriction (at or above 13000 ft) and the coopp restriction (at or above 15000 ft). The controller relieved us from the lax VOR restriction when he gave us a heading to join the loop 9 departure east of the lax VOR when we were west of the lax VOR, but I couldn't get through to him early enough to request deletion of the keggs restriction (I finally contacted him at about 7 DME). He did delete the coopp restriction. Complacency was obvious. The solution comes with understanding the plane's capabilities and thoroughly looking at the departure restrictions before takeoff. Then, don't accept a clearance you can't comply with.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ALT XING RESTRICTION NOT MET BY LGT.

Narrative: LOOP 9 DEP. HVY AIRPLANE WITH -X ENGS (WE FLY -X AND -XY ENGINED AIRPLANES). RWY 25R DEP -- HDG 235 DEGS AFTER DEP, CTLR GAVE US L TURN BACK TO LAX VOR (AT ABOUT 8 MI OUT). WE TOOK THE CLRNC (WE WERE CLBING THROUGH ABOUT 5000 FT) THINKING WE COULD MAKE THE RESTRICTION OF 10000 OR ABOVE BY LAX VOR. WE COULDN'T. NOT ONLY DID WE MISS THE LAX VOR RESTRICTION (WE CROSSED IT AT 9500 FT). WE BLED OFF ENOUGH AIRSPD TO ASSURE THAT WE WOULD MISS THE KEGGS RESTRICTION (AT OR ABOVE 13000 FT) AND THE COOPP RESTRICTION (AT OR ABOVE 15000 FT). THE CTLR RELIEVED US FROM THE LAX VOR RESTRICTION WHEN HE GAVE US A HDG TO JOIN THE LOOP 9 DEP E OF THE LAX VOR WHEN WE WERE W OF THE LAX VOR, BUT I COULDN'T GET THROUGH TO HIM EARLY ENOUGH TO REQUEST DELETION OF THE KEGGS RESTRICTION (I FINALLY CONTACTED HIM AT ABOUT 7 DME). HE DID DELETE THE COOPP RESTRICTION. COMPLACENCY WAS OBVIOUS. THE SOLUTION COMES WITH UNDERSTANDING THE PLANE'S CAPABILITIES AND THOROUGHLY LOOKING AT THE DEP RESTRICTIONS BEFORE TKOF. THEN, DON'T ACCEPT A CLRNC YOU CAN'T COMPLY WITH.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.