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Attributes | |
ACN | 253555 |
Time | |
Date | 199310 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : stl |
State Reference | MO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 0 msl bound upper : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : stl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 6000 |
ASRS Report | 253555 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Attached is copy of pre departure clearance message. After departure we thought we were going to get radar vectors to mkc after departure. In fact, the controller (departure) indicated we were supposed to fly the ozark 2 departure, hlv transition, then direct mkc. I feel the format and content of the pre departure clearance is misleading. We have 3 different 'indications' of routing: 'routing,' 'ATC clearance,' and 'flight plan routing.' as far as I'm concerned, the entire 'routing' should be in hyphens, it's all ATC clearance. If we want to put the filed route of flight readout right underneath for comparison, that might be helpful. Although we did not violate any clrncs, it was professionally embarrassing to find out after we were airborne that we had misunderstood the pre departure clearance. Routing -- ATC clearance -- OZARK2 hlv mkc. Flight plan routing -- stl..mkc.J24.hgo.J168.ioc..den/0200.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG FLC MISINTERPRETS PDC. HDG DEV.
Narrative: ATTACHED IS COPY OF PDC MESSAGE. AFTER DEP WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO GET RADAR VECTORS TO MKC AFTER DEP. IN FACT, THE CTLR (DEP) INDICATED WE WERE SUPPOSED TO FLY THE OZARK 2 DEP, HLV TRANSITION, THEN DIRECT MKC. I FEEL THE FORMAT AND CONTENT OF THE PDC IS MISLEADING. WE HAVE 3 DIFFERENT 'INDICATIONS' OF ROUTING: 'ROUTING,' 'ATC CLRNC,' AND 'FLT PLAN ROUTING.' AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, THE ENTIRE 'ROUTING' SHOULD BE IN HYPHENS, IT'S ALL ATC CLRNC. IF WE WANT TO PUT THE FILED RTE OF FLT READOUT RIGHT UNDERNEATH FOR COMPARISON, THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL. ALTHOUGH WE DID NOT VIOLATE ANY CLRNCS, IT WAS PROFESSIONALLY EMBARRASSING TO FIND OUT AFTER WE WERE AIRBORNE THAT WE HAD MISUNDERSTOOD THE PDC. ROUTING -- ATC CLRNC -- OZARK2 HLV MKC. FLT PLAN ROUTING -- STL..MKC.J24.HGO.J168.IOC..DEN/0200.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.