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Attributes | |
ACN | 254616 |
Time | |
Date | 199310 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : pdz |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 8000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : ont |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 13000 flight time type : 6800 |
ASRS Report | 254616 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : far other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 750 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
In cruise at 8000 ft when my first officer says 'look at that,' I saw an aircraft in a slight bank to the south, could not tell whether aircraft was opposite or same direction at first. I disconnected the autoplt, in case action was required, and then I could tell that the aircraft was opposite direction and exactly our altitude on a converging course in a right bank (shallow). The aircraft's bank angle appeared not enough so I banked right abruptly to a 30 degree angle and climbed 100 ft. The ont controller had not heard our chkin and had started calling us asking us to descend, but by that time the small aircraft was past us, approximately 500-1000 ft horizontally. The controller said that the small aircraft wasn't talking to anyone and that no n- number was available. The pdz VOR/DME is a high density traffic area with en route carrier traffic and departures off ont cross the fix. I personally would like to see inbound aircraft to lax from psp, ca, kept higher due to the high number of GA aircraft over this fix, both en route and instruction aircraft. This is the second time that I've taken evasive over pdz. We're en route from psp to lax and yes, the passenger did notice all of them.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LTT HAS CONFLICT WITH AN SMA IN VICINITY OF PDZ.
Narrative: IN CRUISE AT 8000 FT WHEN MY FO SAYS 'LOOK AT THAT,' I SAW AN ACFT IN A SLIGHT BANK TO THE S, COULD NOT TELL WHETHER ACFT WAS OPPOSITE OR SAME DIRECTION AT FIRST. I DISCONNECTED THE AUTOPLT, IN CASE ACTION WAS REQUIRED, AND THEN I COULD TELL THAT THE ACFT WAS OPPOSITE DIRECTION AND EXACTLY OUR ALT ON A CONVERGING COURSE IN A R BANK (SHALLOW). THE ACFT'S BANK ANGLE APPEARED NOT ENOUGH SO I BANKED R ABRUPTLY TO A 30 DEG ANGLE AND CLBED 100 FT. THE ONT CTLR HAD NOT HEARD OUR CHKIN AND HAD STARTED CALLING US ASKING US TO DSND, BUT BY THAT TIME THE SMA WAS PAST US, APPROX 500-1000 FT HORIZLY. THE CTLR SAID THAT THE SMA WASN'T TALKING TO ANYONE AND THAT NO N- NUMBER WAS AVAILABLE. THE PDZ VOR/DME IS A HIGH DENSITY TFC AREA WITH ENRTE CARRIER TFC AND DEPS OFF ONT CROSS THE FIX. I PERSONALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE INBOUND ACFT TO LAX FROM PSP, CA, KEPT HIGHER DUE TO THE HIGH NUMBER OF GA ACFT OVER THIS FIX, BOTH ENRTE AND INSTRUCTION ACFT. THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THAT I'VE TAKEN EVASIVE OVER PDZ. WE'RE ENRTE FROM PSP TO LAX AND YES, THE PAX DID NOTICE ALL OF THEM.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.