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Attributes | |
ACN | 265220 |
Time | |
Date | 199403 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bos |
State Reference | MA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : bos tower : cps |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Saab-Scania Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 170 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 265220 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action none taken : insufficient time other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 500 vertical : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
En route to bos on a VFR flight plan at 5500 ft. Flight X a do-228 entered mht airspace and asked for radar advisories. Mht ATC was working a saab 340 flight Y IFR en route to bos (do-228 was about 3-5 mi ahead of the saab). Mht ATC advised the saab crew that they had do-228 traffic at 12 O'clock, 5 mi. Saab crew acknowledged that they were looking. Mht ATC asked flight X what the heading was to bos, I stated it was 190 degrees. Mht ATC advised the saab crew of my heading. I am not sure what their response was to ATC. Mht ATC then handed us over to ZBW (about 24 DME from bos). Bos ATC cleared flight X into the class B airspace. Descend and maintain 4500 ft. Turn right to a heading of 240 degrees, vectors to final. Moments later at 5000 ft on the 240 degree heading my first officer looked out the right window and saw a saab 340 pass just under neath us in a nose-down attitude. The saab crew checked in the ZBW and stated that they just had to make an emergency maneuver to avoid hitting a dornier. ZBW response was roger! The saab crew then asked bos what happened back there? Was the do- 228 roaming around out there and whose airspace was he in? ZBW said that he wasn't sure whose airspace (bos or mht) the do-228 was in (it was around the 20 DME). The saab crew then stated that it was close. To make a simple story, we crossed each other's path at the same altitude. This could have been avoided in a couple of ways: mht ATC knew he had 2 aircraft on the same heading landing at the same airport. When he handed the do-228 off to ZBW, he should have notified him (bos) about the saab which is behind the do-228 that is on the same heading and is much faster. How about a heading change or a speed reduction for the saab? The sabb crew either never saw us or failed to maintain visual contact with us (do-228). This happened in a transition period (handoff). I feel that the saab crew was unprofessional over the radio. He made it sound like the do-228 was roaming around out there lost, where in fact I had a clearance to operate in the bos class B airspace with instruction from ATC.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMT HAS NMAC WITH LTT ON DSCNT INTO BOS.
Narrative: ENRTE TO BOS ON A VFR FLT PLAN AT 5500 FT. FLT X A DO-228 ENTERED MHT AIRSPACE AND ASKED FOR RADAR ADVISORIES. MHT ATC WAS WORKING A SAAB 340 FLT Y IFR ENRTE TO BOS (DO-228 WAS ABOUT 3-5 MI AHEAD OF THE SAAB). MHT ATC ADVISED THE SAAB CREW THAT THEY HAD DO-228 TFC AT 12 O'CLOCK, 5 MI. SAAB CREW ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THEY WERE LOOKING. MHT ATC ASKED FLT X WHAT THE HDG WAS TO BOS, I STATED IT WAS 190 DEGS. MHT ATC ADVISED THE SAAB CREW OF MY HDG. I AM NOT SURE WHAT THEIR RESPONSE WAS TO ATC. MHT ATC THEN HANDED US OVER TO ZBW (ABOUT 24 DME FROM BOS). BOS ATC CLRED FLT X INTO THE CLASS B AIRSPACE. DSND AND MAINTAIN 4500 FT. TURN R TO A HDG OF 240 DEGS, VECTORS TO FINAL. MOMENTS LATER AT 5000 FT ON THE 240 DEG HDG MY FO LOOKED OUT THE R WINDOW AND SAW A SAAB 340 PASS JUST UNDER NEATH US IN A NOSE-DOWN ATTITUDE. THE SAAB CREW CHKED IN THE ZBW AND STATED THAT THEY JUST HAD TO MAKE AN EMER MANEUVER TO AVOID HITTING A DORNIER. ZBW RESPONSE WAS ROGER! THE SAAB CREW THEN ASKED BOS WHAT HAPPENED BACK THERE? WAS THE DO- 228 ROAMING AROUND OUT THERE AND WHOSE AIRSPACE WAS HE IN? ZBW SAID THAT HE WASN'T SURE WHOSE AIRSPACE (BOS OR MHT) THE DO-228 WAS IN (IT WAS AROUND THE 20 DME). THE SAAB CREW THEN STATED THAT IT WAS CLOSE. TO MAKE A SIMPLE STORY, WE CROSSED EACH OTHER'S PATH AT THE SAME ALT. THIS COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IN A COUPLE OF WAYS: MHT ATC KNEW HE HAD 2 ACFT ON THE SAME HDG LNDG AT THE SAME ARPT. WHEN HE HANDED THE DO-228 OFF TO ZBW, HE SHOULD HAVE NOTIFIED HIM (BOS) ABOUT THE SAAB WHICH IS BEHIND THE DO-228 THAT IS ON THE SAME HDG AND IS MUCH FASTER. HOW ABOUT A HDG CHANGE OR A SPD REDUCTION FOR THE SAAB? THE SABB CREW EITHER NEVER SAW US OR FAILED TO MAINTAIN VISUAL CONTACT WITH US (DO-228). THIS HAPPENED IN A TRANSITION PERIOD (HDOF). I FEEL THAT THE SAAB CREW WAS UNPROFESSIONAL OVER THE RADIO. HE MADE IT SOUND LIKE THE DO-228 WAS ROAMING AROUND OUT THERE LOST, WHERE IN FACT I HAD A CLRNC TO OPERATE IN THE BOS CLASS B AIRSPACE WITH INSTRUCTION FROM ATC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.