Large transport aircraft on descent into fll had near midair collision with twin propeller aircraft ...

Attributes
ACN	111174
Time
Date	198905
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : fll
State Reference	FL
Altitude	msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	descent other
Route In Use	enroute airway : mia
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Make Model Name	Small Transport
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 3500
ASRS Report	111174
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 2500
ASRS Report	111292
Events
Anomaly	conflict : nmac other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : insufficient time
Consequence	faa : reviewed incident with flight crew
Miss Distance	horizontal : 25 vertical : 50
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance

Narrative:

Ewr-fll approaching fll about 10-12 DME northwest of fll. Talking to mia approach. Level at 3000', 250 KTS heading 240 degrees, we had a near midair collision with a twin engine aircraft heading approximately 300 degrees. We estimate we missed that aircraft by 50' or less. We could see the aircraft and also hear and feel him pass--we were that close. We had no time to evade. At that point we made 3 immediate calls to approach, with the controller answering on the third call. We told him of our near miss, and asked whether he had another aircraft in our vicinity. His reply was, 'I was on the landline; I just picked up an aircraft climbing at 3800'.' no evasive action was taken (no time). I'm sure no one on board knew we had a near collision (no injuries). Once on the ground I told fll operations we had a near midair collision and proceeded to call mia approach. I spoke with supervisor on duty. He told me the controller controling our aircraft when the incident occurred was talking on the landline. He also informed me that the aircraft in question had just departed fll executive airport, and was some sort of high performance twin aircraft. He also said when they first picked up the aircraft, he was at 3800' and climbing rapidly, and shortly thereafter he was already at 16500'. Someone needs to be watching the store at all times--even when on the landline. 130 passenger and 7 crew just about paid the ultimate price on this one!!

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: LGT ACFT ON DESCENT INTO FLL HAD NMAC WITH TWIN PROPELLER ACFT CLIMBING. MIA TRACON RADAR CTLR WAS ON LAND LINE AND DID NOT GIVE TRAFFIC OR SEE THE VFR TRAFFIC UNTIL AFTER NMAC.

Narrative: EWR-FLL APCHING FLL ABOUT 10-12 DME NW OF FLL. TALKING TO MIA APCH. LEVEL AT 3000', 250 KTS HDG 240 DEGS, WE HAD A NMAC WITH A TWIN ENG ACFT HDG APPROX 300 DEGS. WE ESTIMATE WE MISSED THAT ACFT BY 50' OR LESS. WE COULD SEE THE ACFT AND ALSO HEAR AND FEEL HIM PASS--WE WERE THAT CLOSE. WE HAD NO TIME TO EVADE. AT THAT POINT WE MADE 3 IMMEDIATE CALLS TO APCH, WITH THE CTLR ANSWERING ON THE THIRD CALL. WE TOLD HIM OF OUR NEAR MISS, AND ASKED WHETHER HE HAD ANOTHER ACFT IN OUR VICINITY. HIS REPLY WAS, 'I WAS ON THE LANDLINE; I JUST PICKED UP AN ACFT CLBING AT 3800'.' NO EVASIVE ACTION WAS TAKEN (NO TIME). I'M SURE NO ONE ON BOARD KNEW WE HAD A NEAR COLLISION (NO INJURIES). ONCE ON THE GND I TOLD FLL OPS WE HAD A NMAC AND PROCEEDED TO CALL MIA APCH. I SPOKE WITH SUPVR ON DUTY. HE TOLD ME THE CTLR CTLING OUR ACFT WHEN THE INCIDENT OCCURRED WAS TALKING ON THE LANDLINE. HE ALSO INFORMED ME THAT THE ACFT IN QUESTION HAD JUST DEPARTED FLL EXECUTIVE ARPT, AND WAS SOME SORT OF HIGH PERFORMANCE TWIN ACFT. HE ALSO SAID WHEN THEY FIRST PICKED UP THE ACFT, HE WAS AT 3800' AND CLBING RAPIDLY, AND SHORTLY THEREAFTER HE WAS ALREADY AT 16500'. SOMEONE NEEDS TO BE WATCHING THE STORE AT ALL TIMES--EVEN WHEN ON THE LANDLINE. 130 PAX AND 7 CREW JUST ABOUT PAID THE ULTIMATE PRICE ON THIS ONE!!

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Large transport aircraft on descent into fll had near midair collision with twin propeller aircraft climbing. Mia TRACON radar controller was on land line and did not give traffic or see the VFR traffic until after near midair collision.