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Attributes | |
ACN | 265640 |
Time | |
Date | 199403 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : atl |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5300 msl bound upper : 5300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : atl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller non radar : 1 controller radar : 14 controller supervisory : 3 |
ASRS Report | 265640 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6500 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Air carrier X northbound cleared to 4000 ft row runway 9R. Air carrier Y sbound at 5000 ft for runway 8L. X got RA to climb when he was 4 mi away at 5300 ft descending to 4000 ft. This caused him to level off at air carrier Y's altitude. The RA had instructed X to climb, prior to loosing 3 mi separation he was turned on final and cleared for a visual approach. I believe that had the pilot not been so concerned with TCASII and descended at a normal rate, he would have been at 4000 ft before he got close to final. In my opinion TCASII made this situation closer than it would have been!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X TCASII RA NON ADHERENCE TO ATC CLRNC HAD LTSS FROM ACR Y.
Narrative: ACR X NBOUND CLRED TO 4000 FT ROW RWY 9R. ACR Y SBOUND AT 5000 FT FOR RWY 8L. X GOT RA TO CLB WHEN HE WAS 4 MI AWAY AT 5300 FT DSNDING TO 4000 FT. THIS CAUSED HIM TO LEVEL OFF AT ACR Y'S ALT. THE RA HAD INSTRUCTED X TO CLB, PRIOR TO LOOSING 3 MI SEPARATION HE WAS TURNED ON FINAL AND CLRED FOR A VISUAL APCH. I BELIEVE THAT HAD THE PLT NOT BEEN SO CONCERNED WITH TCASII AND DSNDED AT A NORMAL RATE, HE WOULD HAVE BEEN AT 4000 FT BEFORE HE GOT CLOSE TO FINAL. IN MY OPINION TCASII MADE THIS SIT CLOSER THAN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.