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Attributes | |
ACN | 266185 |
Time | |
Date | 199403 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lga |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 8600 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 266185 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe conflict : ground less severe other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Airport |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Situations | |
Airport | other physical facility |
Narrative:
I was the first officer and PF on a boeing 727 departing runway 4 at lga. There was a significant crosswind (320 at 20). The #2 throttle was advanced a little slower than usual to avoid a compressor stall. The rotation was started after the PNF called V1, vr. Both the speed and angle of rotation were normal. The aircraft lifted off at the intersection of runways 4 and 13. This intersection is extremely rough. Since the captain agreed that there was nothing unusual about the rotation, neither one of us had any idea that we had struck the tailskid. I did feel the usual jolt at the runway intersection. I think that at the normal takeoff deck angle, the main gear struts, while normally extended at this point, were compressed by the 'bump' thereby causing the tailskid to contact the runway. It's hard to imagine the condition of the runway at lga until you have ridden over them. The bumps on runway 13 are more than just annoying -- they are painful.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B727 HIT ITS TAILSKID ON ROTATION AT LGA.
Narrative: I WAS THE FO AND PF ON A BOEING 727 DEPARTING RWY 4 AT LGA. THERE WAS A SIGNIFICANT XWIND (320 AT 20). THE #2 THROTTLE WAS ADVANCED A LITTLE SLOWER THAN USUAL TO AVOID A COMPRESSOR STALL. THE ROTATION WAS STARTED AFTER THE PNF CALLED V1, VR. BOTH THE SPD AND ANGLE OF ROTATION WERE NORMAL. THE ACFT LIFTED OFF AT THE INTXN OF RWYS 4 AND 13. THIS INTXN IS EXTREMELY ROUGH. SINCE THE CAPT AGREED THAT THERE WAS NOTHING UNUSUAL ABOUT THE ROTATION, NEITHER ONE OF US HAD ANY IDEA THAT WE HAD STRUCK THE TAILSKID. I DID FEEL THE USUAL JOLT AT THE RWY INTXN. I THINK THAT AT THE NORMAL TKOF DECK ANGLE, THE MAIN GEAR STRUTS, WHILE NORMALLY EXTENDED AT THIS POINT, WERE COMPRESSED BY THE 'BUMP' THEREBY CAUSING THE TAILSKID TO CONTACT THE RWY. IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE THE CONDITION OF THE RWY AT LGA UNTIL YOU HAVE RIDDEN OVER THEM. THE BUMPS ON RWY 13 ARE MORE THAN JUST ANNOYING -- THEY ARE PAINFUL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.