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Attributes | |
ACN | 266870 |
Time | |
Date | 199403 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lga |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer observation : company check pilot oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 266870 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 5500 |
ASRS Report | 266985 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
We were operating about 1 hour late which put us in ny area at same time as flight adb. Our flight was abb. Controller cleared abb direct lga descend and maintenance 4000 ft. We were at 9000 ft. I acknowledged and we complied. We had not heard adb on frequency yet, nor had we heard him respond to same clearance. We had blocked each other and not known it until phone conversation later. Suddenly, controller said, 'adb where are, you going?' adb, 'you cleared us direct down to 4000 ft. ATC was silent for about 10 seconds. Seemed longer. ATC said abb turn right heading 150 degrees. A target showed on TCASII at 12 O'clock, 2000 below us. If we had continued down, we would have had a near miss. ATC continued to give both abb and adb a lot of strange vectors -- obviously for traffic. I queried ATC about it and he said 'you guys keep getting your flight numbers mixed up.' I know he had said abb in the original clearance, but he meant it for adb. Also, adb was expecting that clearance so he responded. In retrospect, it was strange that we would be cleared from 9000 to 4000 ft in such a high density area. I thought maybe the traffic was light at that time. Supplemental information from acn 266985: pretty soon, we heard approach asking, '(company) adb what's your heading and altitude?' we were unaware that there was an adb on the frequency but they responded that they were proceeding direct lga and descending to 4000 ft. The controller gave them a turn to the south, which they responded to while protesting that they had been cleared direct lga. The controller again gave adb a turn to the south. We then told him that abb was proceeding direct lga and descending to 4000 ft. He then gave us a turn to the south and told us to stop the descent at 9000 ft. Supplemental information from acn 266990: we were flight adb, similar sounding call sign (with flight abb), took our clearance to descend and proceed direct to lga. Controller also was confused as to which aircraft was which. I called ATC on land line just to confirm all was ok. He confirmed no problems.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SIMILAR SOUNDING A/N AND RESPONSE TO WRONG CALL SIGN CREATES CONFUSION FOR FLCS AND ATC APCH CTLR.
Narrative: WE WERE OPERATING ABOUT 1 HR LATE WHICH PUT US IN NY AREA AT SAME TIME AS FLT ADB. OUR FLT WAS ABB. CTLR CLRED ABB DIRECT LGA DSND AND MAINT 4000 FT. WE WERE AT 9000 FT. I ACKNOWLEDGED AND WE COMPLIED. WE HAD NOT HEARD ADB ON FREQ YET, NOR HAD WE HEARD HIM RESPOND TO SAME CLRNC. WE HAD BLOCKED EACH OTHER AND NOT KNOWN IT UNTIL PHONE CONVERSATION LATER. SUDDENLY, CTLR SAID, 'ADB WHERE ARE, YOU GOING?' ADB, 'YOU CLRED US DIRECT DOWN TO 4000 FT. ATC WAS SILENT FOR ABOUT 10 SECONDS. SEEMED LONGER. ATC SAID ABB TURN R HDG 150 DEGS. A TARGET SHOWED ON TCASII AT 12 O'CLOCK, 2000 BELOW US. IF WE HAD CONTINUED DOWN, WE WOULD HAVE HAD A NEAR MISS. ATC CONTINUED TO GIVE BOTH ABB AND ADB A LOT OF STRANGE VECTORS -- OBVIOUSLY FOR TFC. I QUERIED ATC ABOUT IT AND HE SAID 'YOU GUYS KEEP GETTING YOUR FLT NUMBERS MIXED UP.' I KNOW HE HAD SAID ABB IN THE ORIGINAL CLRNC, BUT HE MEANT IT FOR ADB. ALSO, ADB WAS EXPECTING THAT CLRNC SO HE RESPONDED. IN RETROSPECT, IT WAS STRANGE THAT WE WOULD BE CLRED FROM 9000 TO 4000 FT IN SUCH A HIGH DENSITY AREA. I THOUGHT MAYBE THE TFC WAS LIGHT AT THAT TIME. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 266985: PRETTY SOON, WE HEARD APCH ASKING, '(COMPANY) ADB WHAT'S YOUR HDG AND ALT?' WE WERE UNAWARE THAT THERE WAS AN ADB ON THE FREQ BUT THEY RESPONDED THAT THEY WERE PROCEEDING DIRECT LGA AND DSNDING TO 4000 FT. THE CTLR GAVE THEM A TURN TO THE S, WHICH THEY RESPONDED TO WHILE PROTESTING THAT THEY HAD BEEN CLRED DIRECT LGA. THE CTLR AGAIN GAVE ADB A TURN TO THE S. WE THEN TOLD HIM THAT ABB WAS PROCEEDING DIRECT LGA AND DSNDING TO 4000 FT. HE THEN GAVE US A TURN TO THE S AND TOLD US TO STOP THE DSCNT AT 9000 FT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 266990: WE WERE FLT ADB, SIMILAR SOUNDING CALL SIGN (WITH FLT ABB), TOOK OUR CLRNC TO DSND AND PROCEED DIRECT TO LGA. CTLR ALSO WAS CONFUSED AS TO WHICH ACFT WAS WHICH. I CALLED ATC ON LAND LINE JUST TO CONFIRM ALL WAS OK. HE CONFIRMED NO PROBS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.