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Attributes | |
ACN | 267055 |
Time | |
Date | 199403 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : las |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : las tower : las |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 267055 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 30000 vertical : 1500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Flight was scheduled from las-dfw. The departure ATIS indicated using runway 1R for departure. When the first officer got the ATC clearance runway 19 was indicated, then changed back to 01 prior to taxi. After takeoff we flew the mead 8 departure, as published. While on the published 070 heading, departure control said, 'climb unrestr to 17000, and start your turn'. We understood this to mean to start the turn toward bld VOR, which we did. Then we got a TCASII alert and visually saw an airplane inbound from bld turning westward away from us. At about that same time, departure control asked if we were heading toward bld. I (captain), replied that we were, in accordance with the published SID. They replied that our clearance had been to fly 060 and expect vectors. Neither the first officer or I were aware of any such clearance. Departure control repeated that admonition, and I asked if he wanted us to do that, but he said to go ahead and go to bld. Which we did. A little later I heard departure controller tell another aircraft (I think it was the inbound airplane), 'don't worry about it, it wasn't your fault, it was the tower's fault.' they never said anything like that to us. That is why I am submitting this report. I think what really happened was, that the tower was supposed to give us the 'fly 060 and expect vectors' clearance, but during the confusion over the runway change to 19 and back to 1R, somehow, that clearance 'fell through the cracks', and we never got it. When I saw the inbound aircraft on the TCASII, it was 1500 ft above us and 5 mi away. When I saw it visually, it was in a turn heading away from us. There was never any danger of a midair. But I feel that somewhere in the system, something went wrong, and therefore I submit this report so that my feelings can go on the record.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: POTENTIAL CONFLICT. HDG TRACK DEV.
Narrative: FLT WAS SCHEDULED FROM LAS-DFW. THE DEP ATIS INDICATED USING RWY 1R FOR DEP. WHEN THE FO GOT THE ATC CLRNC RWY 19 WAS INDICATED, THEN CHANGED BACK TO 01 PRIOR TO TAXI. AFTER TKOF WE FLEW THE MEAD 8 DEP, AS PUBLISHED. WHILE ON THE PUBLISHED 070 HDG, DEP CTL SAID, 'CLB UNRESTR TO 17000, AND START YOUR TURN'. WE UNDERSTOOD THIS TO MEAN TO START THE TURN TOWARD BLD VOR, WHICH WE DID. THEN WE GOT A TCASII ALERT AND VISUALLY SAW AN AIRPLANE INBOUND FROM BLD TURNING WESTWARD AWAY FROM US. AT ABOUT THAT SAME TIME, DEP CTL ASKED IF WE WERE HDG TOWARD BLD. I (CAPT), REPLIED THAT WE WERE, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PUBLISHED SID. THEY REPLIED THAT OUR CLRNC HAD BEEN TO FLY 060 AND EXPECT VECTORS. NEITHER THE FO OR I WERE AWARE OF ANY SUCH CLRNC. DEP CTL REPEATED THAT ADMONITION, AND I ASKED IF HE WANTED US TO DO THAT, BUT HE SAID TO GO AHEAD AND GO TO BLD. WHICH WE DID. A LITTLE LATER I HEARD DEP CTLR TELL ANOTHER ACFT (I THINK IT WAS THE INBOUND AIRPLANE), 'DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT, IT WASN'T YOUR FAULT, IT WAS THE TWR'S FAULT.' THEY NEVER SAID ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO US. THAT IS WHY I AM SUBMITTING THIS RPT. I THINK WHAT REALLY HAPPENED WAS, THAT THE TWR WAS SUPPOSED TO GIVE US THE 'FLY 060 AND EXPECT VECTORS' CLRNC, BUT DURING THE CONFUSION OVER THE RWY CHANGE TO 19 AND BACK TO 1R, SOMEHOW, THAT CLRNC 'FELL THROUGH THE CRACKS', AND WE NEVER GOT IT. WHEN I SAW THE INBOUND ACFT ON THE TCASII, IT WAS 1500 FT ABOVE US AND 5 MI AWAY. WHEN I SAW IT VISUALLY, IT WAS IN A TURN HDG AWAY FROM US. THERE WAS NEVER ANY DANGER OF A MIDAIR. BUT I FEEL THAT SOMEWHERE IN THE SYS, SOMETHING WENT WRONG, AND THEREFORE I SUBMIT THIS RPT SO THAT MY FEELINGS CAN GO ON THE RECORD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.