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Attributes | |
ACN | 268726 |
Time | |
Date | 199404 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : msp |
State Reference | MN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4350 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : msp |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A320 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 11500 flight time type : 150 |
ASRS Report | 268726 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance other anomaly other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : overcame equipment problem flight crew : regained aircraft control |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While on a heading to intercept the ILS 29R at msp we called the airport in sight and we were cleared for the visual approach. At this time we were level at an assigned altitude of 4000 ft. Prior to localizer intercept, the GS came into view and I armed the approach function of the autoplt. (The latest version of software allows GS capture prior to localizer intercept.) the GS captured and we began a descent for a couple hundred ft. For an unknown reason (possibly a false GS) we began to climb, while still in GS capture mode. This transition to a climb was not noticed immediately due to confign changes, turbulent conditions and a power increase that was not obvious, since the thrust levers do not move. I became aware of the climb at about 4100 ft and attempted to level off by pulling the vertical speed knob and rotating it to a descent. The aircraft continued to climb on the autoplt, which I then disconnected. By this time we had ballooned through 4350 ft. I was surprised to find that the vertical speed selector window showing a climb. I don't know why this was the case -- possibly because of pulling and turning the knob at the same time, and the system accepted the aircraft current vertical speed rather than the requested vertical speed. There is no altitude hold button. No conflict occurred. There is a lot to dislike about the design and implementation of this automated cockpit.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALTDEV ALT EXCURSION DURING APCH ON AUTOPLT.
Narrative: WHILE ON A HDG TO INTERCEPT THE ILS 29R AT MSP WE CALLED THE ARPT IN SIGHT AND WE WERE CLRED FOR THE VISUAL APCH. AT THIS TIME WE WERE LEVEL AT AN ASSIGNED ALT OF 4000 FT. PRIOR TO LOC INTERCEPT, THE GS CAME INTO VIEW AND I ARMED THE APCH FUNCTION OF THE AUTOPLT. (THE LATEST VERSION OF SOFTWARE ALLOWS GS CAPTURE PRIOR TO LOC INTERCEPT.) THE GS CAPTURED AND WE BEGAN A DSCNT FOR A COUPLE HUNDRED FT. FOR AN UNKNOWN REASON (POSSIBLY A FALSE GS) WE BEGAN TO CLB, WHILE STILL IN GS CAPTURE MODE. THIS TRANSITION TO A CLB WAS NOT NOTICED IMMEDIATELY DUE TO CONFIGN CHANGES, TURBULENT CONDITIONS AND A PWR INCREASE THAT WAS NOT OBVIOUS, SINCE THE THRUST LEVERS DO NOT MOVE. I BECAME AWARE OF THE CLB AT ABOUT 4100 FT AND ATTEMPTED TO LEVEL OFF BY PULLING THE VERT SPD KNOB AND ROTATING IT TO A DSCNT. THE ACFT CONTINUED TO CLB ON THE AUTOPLT, WHICH I THEN DISCONNECTED. BY THIS TIME WE HAD BALLOONED THROUGH 4350 FT. I WAS SURPRISED TO FIND THAT THE VERT SPD SELECTOR WINDOW SHOWING A CLB. I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS WAS THE CASE -- POSSIBLY BECAUSE OF PULLING AND TURNING THE KNOB AT THE SAME TIME, AND THE SYS ACCEPTED THE ACFT CURRENT VERT SPD RATHER THAN THE REQUESTED VERT SPD. THERE IS NO ALT HOLD BUTTON. NO CONFLICT OCCURRED. THERE IS A LOT TO DISLIKE ABOUT THE DESIGN AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS AUTOMATED COCKPIT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.