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Attributes | |
ACN | 269040 |
Time | |
Date | 199404 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : zid airport : cmh |
State Reference | IN |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 9000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 1500 flight time type : 145 |
ASRS Report | 269040 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | observation : passenger observation : observer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 1250 flight time type : 15 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical non adherence : far non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : overcame equipment problem |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | other physical facility |
Narrative:
On 4/xx/94, on a 135 air taxi flight from beh to cmg, the following transpired. At approximately 35 NM northwest of cmh, at 55Z or am, 55 eastern, small transport which I was PIC was cleared on descent to cmh from 9000 ft to 5000 ft. Upon completion of descent it was noticed that there had been no radio contact in approximately 5 mins. I made several attempts to contact ZID. After 3 tries contact was reestablished. At that time controller said he was unable to raise us for a period and issued a frequency change to columbus approach. Upon landing at cmh, ground advised us to contact columbus radar supervisor who had us call ZID. Conversation with mr. X of ZID said they had a loss of separation between our aircraft and another. Apparent communications loss or problems may have caused this occurrence. A pilot and also a passenger was a witness with a headset on in the front right seat. He agrees totally with this report and has also filed a NASA safety report.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LOSS OF RADIO CONTACT WHEN CTR CTLR UNABLE TO ESTABLISH RADIO CONTACT WITH ATX DRIVER.
Narrative: ON 4/XX/94, ON A 135 AIR TAXI FLT FROM BEH TO CMG, THE FOLLOWING TRANSPIRED. AT APPROX 35 NM NW OF CMH, AT 55Z OR AM, 55 EASTERN, SMT WHICH I WAS PIC WAS CLRED ON DSCNT TO CMH FROM 9000 FT TO 5000 FT. UPON COMPLETION OF DSCNT IT WAS NOTICED THAT THERE HAD BEEN NO RADIO CONTACT IN APPROX 5 MINS. I MADE SEVERAL ATTEMPTS TO CONTACT ZID. AFTER 3 TRIES CONTACT WAS REESTABLISHED. AT THAT TIME CTLR SAID HE WAS UNABLE TO RAISE US FOR A PERIOD AND ISSUED A FREQ CHANGE TO COLUMBUS APCH. UPON LNDG AT CMH, GND ADVISED US TO CONTACT COLUMBUS RADAR SUPVR WHO HAD US CALL ZID. CONVERSATION WITH MR. X OF ZID SAID THEY HAD A LOSS OF SEPARATION BTWN OUR ACFT AND ANOTHER. APPARENT COMS LOSS OR PROBS MAY HAVE CAUSED THIS OCCURRENCE. A PLT AND ALSO A PAX WAS A WITNESS WITH A HEADSET ON IN THE FRONT R SEAT. HE AGREES TOTALLY WITH THIS RPT AND HAS ALSO FILED A NASA SAFETY RPT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.