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Attributes | |
ACN | 270258 |
Time | |
Date | 199405 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : elp |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 28000 msl bound upper : 28000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zab tracon : bdl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk (A4) |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller radar : 8 |
ASRS Report | 270258 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : developmental |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 27600 vertical : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
I was conducting radar OJT. Working sector 63 and 78 combined. The airspace is from elp to the southeast at FL270 and above sector 20 is the sector below at FL260 down. Sector 20 and sector 63's scopes are side-by-side with no space between. Sector 20 was conducting radar OJT as well. Therefore I was unable to situation next to my trainee, I was standing behind her. There were 3 aircraft lined up and spaced out landing at elp. When we got the handoff on a 4TH aircraft (an MD80), we decided the MD80 would be #2. We turned him 20 degrees left for spacing with the first aircraft. Then turned air carrier X and military X to a 280 degree heading for the MD80. During this time, my trainee had a lot going on (about 20 aircraft) one was a mexican pilot (hard to understand) and secondly a lear jet without mode C, climbing to FL410 off of elp eastbound. I was watching sector 20's traffic as well to see how our inbounds where going to affect them. My trainee asked me for help, I told her to turn X and Y to a 300 degree heading based on what I saw of sector 20's traffic, she turned the last aircraft air carrier X, a B737, then turned military X, TA4, but military X turned faster and separation was lost. The closest the B737 and the TA4 got was 4.6 mi.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MIL Y MADE SHORT TURN AND HAD LTSS FROM ACR X. SYS ERROR.
Narrative: I WAS CONDUCTING RADAR OJT. WORKING SECTOR 63 AND 78 COMBINED. THE AIRSPACE IS FROM ELP TO THE SE AT FL270 AND ABOVE SECTOR 20 IS THE SECTOR BELOW AT FL260 DOWN. SECTOR 20 AND SECTOR 63'S SCOPES ARE SIDE-BY-SIDE WITH NO SPACE BTWN. SECTOR 20 WAS CONDUCTING RADAR OJT AS WELL. THEREFORE I WAS UNABLE TO SIT NEXT TO MY TRAINEE, I WAS STANDING BEHIND HER. THERE WERE 3 ACFT LINED UP AND SPACED OUT LNDG AT ELP. WHEN WE GOT THE HDOF ON A 4TH ACFT (AN MD80), WE DECIDED THE MD80 WOULD BE #2. WE TURNED HIM 20 DEGS L FOR SPACING WITH THE FIRST ACFT. THEN TURNED ACR X AND MIL X TO A 280 DEG HDG FOR THE MD80. DURING THIS TIME, MY TRAINEE HAD A LOT GOING ON (ABOUT 20 ACFT) ONE WAS A MEXICAN PLT (HARD TO UNDERSTAND) AND SECONDLY A LEAR JET WITHOUT MODE C, CLBING TO FL410 OFF OF ELP EBOUND. I WAS WATCHING SECTOR 20'S TFC AS WELL TO SEE HOW OUR INBOUNDS WHERE GOING TO AFFECT THEM. MY TRAINEE ASKED ME FOR HELP, I TOLD HER TO TURN X AND Y TO A 300 DEG HDG BASED ON WHAT I SAW OF SECTOR 20'S TFC, SHE TURNED THE LAST ACFT ACR X, A B737, THEN TURNED MIL X, TA4, BUT MIL X TURNED FASTER AND SEPARATION WAS LOST. THE CLOSEST THE B737 AND THE TA4 GOT WAS 4.6 MI.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.