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Attributes | |
ACN | 270614 |
Time | |
Date | 199403 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : jfk |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B747-SP |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B747 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 225 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 270614 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : clearance non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : investigated faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Air carrier X had a near miss by 200 ft vertical at 3000 ft 16 mi south of jfk while under radar control for a vector to runway 4R ILS into jfk. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated he was tired of being vectored all over the sky after a long flight from germany. The new york controllers should learn to work from a holding pattern like in germany. The only reason they don't is because they would have to show delays. Reporter said priority should be given to long haul flight's because of flight crew fatigue. Reporter stated the near midair collision was with a foreign air carrier Y B747. The TRACON supervisor had said controller training was in progress and air carrier Y had been issued descent clearance had acknowledged but did not descend. The controller missed the non descent. Air carrier X received a TCASII RA climb and the aircraft missed in IMC according to TCASII by 200 ft vertical and 0 horizontal.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X TCASII RA CLB HAD NMAC, LTSS WITH ACR Y NON ADHERENCE TO ATC CLRNC. SYS ERROR. PLTDEV.
Narrative: ACR X HAD A NEAR MISS BY 200 FT VERT AT 3000 FT 16 MI S OF JFK WHILE UNDER RADAR CTL FOR A VECTOR TO RWY 4R ILS INTO JFK. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATED HE WAS TIRED OF BEING VECTORED ALL OVER THE SKY AFTER A LONG FLT FROM GERMANY. THE NEW YORK CTLRS SHOULD LEARN TO WORK FROM A HOLDING PATTERN LIKE IN GERMANY. THE ONLY REASON THEY DON'T IS BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE TO SHOW DELAYS. RPTR SAID PRIORITY SHOULD BE GIVEN TO LONG HAUL FLT'S BECAUSE OF FLC FATIGUE. RPTR STATED THE NMAC WAS WITH A FOREIGN ACR Y B747. THE TRACON SUPVR HAD SAID CTLR TRAINING WAS IN PROGRESS AND ACR Y HAD BEEN ISSUED DSCNT CLRNC HAD ACKNOWLEDGED BUT DID NOT DSND. THE CTLR MISSED THE NON DSCNT. ACR X RECEIVED A TCASII RA CLB AND THE ACFT MISSED IN IMC ACCORDING TO TCASII BY 200 FT VERT AND 0 HORIZ.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.