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Attributes | |
ACN | 270754 |
Time | |
Date | 199405 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 200 agl bound upper : 200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : ord |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | ATR 42 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 270754 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground critical non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Situations | |
Airport | other physical facility |
Narrative:
We were cleared to land runway 27L at ord. The thresholds of runways 22L and 27L nearly intersect. As is typically the case at ord, another aircraft was cleared into position and hold runway 22L. Normally, this aircraft will be cleared for takeoff and departs before traffic landing runway 27L passes overhead. This was not the case today. The aircraft in position on runway 22L was cleared for takeoff, however, the takeoff was delayed to the point that we passed over them at approximately 100-200 ft while landing runway 27L. Maybe we should have gone around -- maybe the controller should have required the aircraft to expedite his departure or exit the runway. At the time, we were unsure as to whether this procedure was acceptable or not. A clarification would be welcome in a NASA publication.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MDT LANDS OVER THE TOP OF AN ACFT IN POS FOR TKOF ON INTERSECTING RWY.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED TO LAND RWY 27L AT ORD. THE THRESHOLDS OF RWYS 22L AND 27L NEARLY INTERSECT. AS IS TYPICALLY THE CASE AT ORD, ANOTHER ACFT WAS CLRED INTO POS AND HOLD RWY 22L. NORMALLY, THIS ACFT WILL BE CLRED FOR TKOF AND DEPARTS BEFORE TFC LNDG RWY 27L PASSES OVERHEAD. THIS WAS NOT THE CASE TODAY. THE ACFT IN POS ON RWY 22L WAS CLRED FOR TKOF, HOWEVER, THE TKOF WAS DELAYED TO THE POINT THAT WE PASSED OVER THEM AT APPROX 100-200 FT WHILE LNDG RWY 27L. MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE GONE AROUND -- MAYBE THE CTLR SHOULD HAVE REQUIRED THE ACFT TO EXPEDITE HIS DEP OR EXIT THE RWY. AT THE TIME, WE WERE UNSURE AS TO WHETHER THIS PROC WAS ACCEPTABLE OR NOT. A CLARIFICATION WOULD BE WELCOME IN A NASA PUB.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.